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Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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That's why he lashes out about the "NRA gunhuggers" when no one lets his bullshite slide
I've yet to post any bullshite. You've yet to post the analysis you promised you could provide, but that we both know is beyond your capabilities.
Continue to show you're incapable of it.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:27 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Bamatool has no answer.
quote:other features that make it exceptionally good at itWhich ones? Name them.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:29 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Then lets work on the overall problem. When you bring stuff to the table like "magazine size restrictions", "military appearance", etc. you're doing your goal a disservice.
But those are part of the overall problem (notice I did not say military appearance, I don't give a shite that Clames paints all of his guns pink and purple). Who the frick needs a 30-round magazine? If it's for hunting, you're a shitty hunter. If it's for home defense, you might want to reconsider what you're aiming at. Yet we see those used again and again to kill innocents.
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Anyone who is considered an expert with firearms, who uses them and shoots them often will tell you that these things don't matter.
I'm not sure we can take those people at their word on this issue, since they have a vested interest in expanding access to guns. We know that that gets more people killed.
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Again, you are focusing on a rifle that is responsible for less than 1% of all gun deaths in the country.
No, -you- are focusing on said rifle. Read what I posted about specific things we could change - not one of them focused on any specific rifle.
You think that if you can divert the subject to how AR-15s really aren't that bad, you won't have to respond to the rest.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:29 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:30 pm to BamaAtl
quote:There are ~141million gun owners. You’re going to craft a law that handles each one individually?
yet many of you conveniently ignore, is that there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution, a
people aren’t ignoring you. They just don’t share your magical thinking. quote:Why not just make murder illegal?
While preventing mass shootings would be a great side effect of stricter gun control laws, the real aim should be to limit the daily murders by firearms that we see all over the country in such higher rates than other similar countries.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:31 pm to BamaAtl
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Kellermann
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:31 pm to BamaAtl
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I'm not sure we can take those people at their word on this issue, since they have a vested interest in expanding access to guns. We know that that gets more people killed.
fricking brilliant.Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:31 pm to wickowick
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What year was that study?
It's from a SciAm article from Oct 2017.
Also:
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(btw, the second set of ORs depicted here is why some people here are so scared of Hemenway - he directly refuted one of their heroes, and embarrassed him in the process)
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:32 pm to Taxing Authority
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There are ~141million gun owners. You’re going to craft a law that handles each one individually?
Of course not. That's not what I said at all, and you should know better.
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Why not just make murder illegal?
Let's unpack this - what exactly do you mean by that?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:33 pm to wickowick
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Do you look at studies where demographics are taken into account when looking at daily murders?
dealing drugs, cheating on a SO, gang affiliation, all correlate orders of magnitude better than gun ownership to homicide. It’s not even a contest here. But she continually ignores this and squawks “more guns more deaths” Swaaaaek.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:35 pm to BamaAtl
Obamas CDC study shattered this myth.
If Obamas study isn't good enough for you than it's clear you aren't interested in reason.
You are unobjectively tailoring "evidence" to fit your opinion, which is easy to do in the gun debate since there is so much misinformation out there.
If Obamas study isn't good enough for you than it's clear you aren't interested in reason.
You are unobjectively tailoring "evidence" to fit your opinion, which is easy to do in the gun debate since there is so much misinformation out there.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:35 pm to SidewalkDawg
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SidewalkDawg
Btw, you asked for my list of changes and I gave some.
Which of them do you agree with? Why?
Which of them do you disagree with? Why?
Please provide data to support any conclusions.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:36 pm to BamaAtl
Is that broken down by state? Some states did not allow or only recently allowed concealed carry. If a lot of those crimes came from states where self-defense with a gun is limited due to the inability to carry, then that is an issue...
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:36 pm to wickowick
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Do you look at studies where demographics are taken into account when looking at daily murders?
You'd always want to control for demographics.
That's one of the most basic things any researcher does.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:36 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Says the jerk off ignoring simple questions.
You are unobjectively tailoring "evidence" to fit your opinion, which is easy to do in the gun debate since there is so much misinformation out there.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:37 pm to BamaAtl
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You're dismissing said authority not on the basis of any actual error with his methodologies,
untrue. And we’ve covered the absurdities many times already. quote:Oh. You have some mad mind-reading skillz.
but because his conclusions scare you.
quote:More appeal to authority.
who objectively is an authority on the subject
Care to triple down on the stupidity? quote:I don’t know if the nRA even has an opinion on him? But it’s a cool story you’re making up in your delusional head. Can you tell me what I’m going to eat for my midnight snack?
even if the NRA tells you he's mean
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:37 pm to Jbird
You responded to me by mistake, I think
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:37 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Obamas CDC study shattered this myth.
It wasn't a study, and that you think it was only demonstrates your ignorance.
As has been stated in this thread by me and others, this was a paper meant to compile current research without opining on the validity or strength of any particular study. It was in no way a meta-analysis.
I know you don't know what a meta-analysis is, so you can google it.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 9:38 pm to BamaAtl
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I've yet to post any bullshite.
Of course you have.
This...
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"Automatic-like fire" and "Fully auto fire" kill proportionately more people second than other things
...is bullshite.
That's just one example.
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You've yet to post the analysis you promised you could provide
You owe me a paper.
I'm patient.
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