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re: NYT: Iran retains operational access to 90% of missile sites according to US intelligence

Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:42 pm to
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U.S. intelligence agencies are telling policymakers behind closed doors


Which intelligence agencies and who are the policymakers they aee talking to behind closed doors

How do these ppl keep getting away with this and when will dummies stop believing this shite
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:43 pm to
A certain space Senator.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47025 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:45 pm to
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So why don't we just... not do that, then?


Not doing it will lead to erosion of the US as the hegemon of global trade and significantly impact our role as the medium of exchange for oil (which contributes significantly to the buying capacity of the USD - destabilization would cause significant inflation).

Also, Iran will actually pursue nuclear weapons and antagonization of Israel moreso. Further destabilizing the region. As much as I would love for us not to be involved in this, that's a pipedream.

Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47025 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:46 pm to
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Which intelligence agencies and who are the policymakers they aee talking to behind closed doors

How do these ppl keep getting away with this and when will dummies stop believing this shite


Probably the Intelligence Committees in their briefing sessions. Given Congress created these agencies and gave themselves oversight authority, the action of releasing intelligence to Congress is required.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:47 pm to
Interesting how these numbers tick up after the wave of propaganda the first few weeks.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13560 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:47 pm to
Trump really screwed this one up and his only offramp is going to be a worse deal than the Obama one that he will have to sell as the best deal in history. Israel and all its allies in his admin played him.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:47 pm to
NYT and “behind closed doors”..
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:48 pm to
Sauces say yet again sauces spoil when shitt
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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90769 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:48 pm to
Action of releasing classified makes some people get a chubby.

Assuming the isn't bullshite from frickheads like Space Senator.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:49 pm to
Lol omb even worse than Obammy!
Posted by Chuck Barris
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:49 pm to
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Not doing it will lead to erosion of the US as the hegemon of global trade and significantly impact our role as the medium of exchange for oil (which contributes significantly to the buying capacity of the USD - destabilization would cause significant inflation).

Also, Iran will actually pursue nuclear weapons and antagonization of Israel moreso. Further destabilizing the region. 
As opposed to all the stability, reputational strength, and economic gain that will come from an invasion that you believe will be worse than Iraq, Afghanistan, or freaking Vietnam?
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
3078 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:50 pm to
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DallasTiger11
You should really lay off the Soy. This is uber-pathetic on every level.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47025 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:51 pm to
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As opposed to all the stability, reputational strength, and economic gain that will come from an invasion that you believe will be worse than Iraq, Afghanistan, or freaking Vietnam?


I think the outcome of an invasion of Iran will be better, largely because the population (primarily Persian) is more capable of hosting a thriving society.

The costliness of the war will be more as Iran provides more logistical challenges and a lot more military capability than Iraq, Afghanistan, or Vietnam
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36335 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:53 pm to
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People with knowledge of the assessments said they show — to varying degrees, depending on the level of damage incurred at the different sites — that the Iranians can use mobile launchers that are inside the sites to move missiles to other locations.


Always the last paragraph.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42434 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:53 pm to
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If they have all of this capability, it seems they would be putting it to use.


Stop making sense.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:57 pm to
I’m gonna go with anyone leaking anything like this to media has corrupt and unscrupulous intentions to begin with. Even just to contemplate it, but then to follow through with such reckless behavior…..certainly not something I, personally, would/will consider credible. This has got nefarious ulterior motives written all over it. And possibly even inside of it, maybe even made of it.

Cliffs: I don’t believe it.
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 9:58 pm
Posted by BigAL Golesh
Member since Apr 2026
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:58 pm to
Bibi is pissed Trump wants out
Posted by davyjones
NELA
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Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:59 pm to
As I understood it Trump can’t get out unless Bibi ok’s it….?
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47025 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:00 pm to
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I’m gonna go with anyone leaking anything like this to media has corrupt and unscrupulous intentions to begin with. Even just to contemplate it, but then to follow through with such reckless behavior…..certainly not something I, personally, would/will consider credible. This has got nefarious ulterior motives written all over it. And possibly even inside of it, maybe even made of it


This is a non-sequitor

The leaker having bad intentions doesn't mean they are incorrect. They could be lying or they could be telling the truth.

At the same time, the WH also lies to us constantly about things for strategic reasons - All White Houses, not Trump's in particular. That doesn't mean we can't take the information we receive and attempt to process it for truth.

I think it's fair to say "fog of war" and give a million caveats with any information being relayed about this, or any, war.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15766 posts
Posted on 5/12/26 at 10:00 pm to
lol the NYT? Have we not learned that every single word they type is a lie. I’m thrilled it means Iran has nothing
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