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re: NY Post: Time to Face Facts; Obama's Presidency Was a Failure

Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by PoundFoolish
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Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:36 pm to
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Maybe so. But the DNC honored BLM at it's convention. Maybe Obama pushed the Dems that direction but it never seemed that way to me. Seems the other way around.


Obama's demeanor is not that of a typical black pol . . . dude is measured, I'll at least say that for him. I guess his "restraint" (and lack thereof) may demonstrate more of a wholesale ideologue than a shithead who does something abhorrently dishonorable and knows that he's doing it.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:37 pm to
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Oh, and good luck finding very many people who still admit to having supported him. It was easier to find someone who admitted they liked disco in 1982, than i

What are you talking about? Hillary won the popular vote by a lot. Most of those loons were proud Obama people.

I myself voted for him in 2008. I hated the W administration and the neocon agenda. Of course now realize how racist the Dems are and will never vote for another. But I admit to supporting him way back.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/8/17 at 7:11 pm to
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Barry could care less.


How much less could he care?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 7:27 am to
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The United States approved of him. And yet they consistenly rejected his party in every election cycle from 2010 forward. Think about that.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 7:35 am to
People can approve or disapprove all they like but the reality is this.

Inside of 4 years, it will be like he was never president.

Because it was his way or the highway, he basically was stuck using EOs and regulations. Easily reversed.

His one signature piece of legislation will not survive.

His deal with Syria is already proven bull shite

Three Iran deal will end the same way

The only notable things about his presidency will be that he was black and his party got smeared
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:27 am to
Obama was an unmitigated failure...there is no question about that. He was, even as late as October 2016, convinced that he could encourage some sort of bipartisan movement in the United States when he should have known in 2008 that there was NO way that he was going to get any kind of bipartisanship in Washington and should have governed accordingly.

When you consider the alternatives to Obama....McCain, who nominated Sara Palin and never met a war he didn't like and Mitt Romney the GOP didn't exactly set the bar very high for Obama to be elected....seriously...his being elected the first time was a perfect storm of the first black presidential nominee of a major party combined with the rights dismissal of neo-conservativism embodied by the failings of the Bush administration...but you have to know that the GOP nominated a real loser in Romney when he lost to a black man in the middle of a pretty shitty economy....

Barrack Obama was a complete failure. He ran as a Bernie Sanders style candidate and then immediately became a Clinton / Bush neo-conservative. The left has never liked neo-cons and the right has given up on them after years of putting them in office...but for some reason Obama went that way. By the way Trump is going to do exactly the same thing....
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:30 am to
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even as late as October 2016, convinced that he could encourage some sort of bipartisan movement in the United States


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should have governed accordingly.

He did from the outset.

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When you consider the alternatives to Obama....McCain, who nominated Sara Palin and never met a war he didn't like and Mitt Romney the GOP didn't exactly set the bar very high for Obama to be elected....seriously...his being elected the first time was a perfect storm of the first black presidential nominee of a major party combined with the rights dismissal of neo-conservativism embodied by the failings of the Bush administration...but you have to know that the GOP nominated a real loser in Romney when he lost to a black man in the middle of a pretty shitty economy....
Return to babbling bullshite.

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He ran as a Bernie Sanders style candidate
Posted by Bullethead88
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:41 am to
Obama's presidency was a failure compared to whom - say Bush2 ?
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:43 am to
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The approval ratings are from Gallup.


This thread is not about Obama's approval, it's about his accomplishments and effectiveness.

The fact that so many Americans approve of failure, or will overlook failure, to advance their agenda of "diversity" is a sad commentary.

Posted by Bullethead88
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:46 am to
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The United States approved of him. And yet they consistenly rejected his party in every election cycle from 2010 forward. Think about that.



Yeah wasn't it 2010 when the Repubs gerrymandered the House Districts so that the Dems would have to get 55% of the National vote to get get 1/2 of the House seats.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:47 am to
"Failure"...is in the eye of the beholder, KC. The Community Organizer strategy of overloading the Government Subsidy System toward ultimate "engineered collapse" and total Government *rescue*...has been wildly successful. From Healthcare to illegal immigrant *rights*, near half the Nation is now on board with the Globalist Authoritarian Socialist agenda, with either Balkanization and/or civil war a real possibility.

I'd say Obama was very successful. Sadly so.

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:48 am to
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Yeah wasn't it 2010 when the Repubs gerrymandered the House Districts so that the Dems would have to get 55% of the National vote to get get 1/2 of the House seats.
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:48 am to
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He was, even as late as October 2016, convinced that he could encourage some sort of bipartisan movement in the United States 




Dude, that community-agitating POS put his feet up on his desk during the first week & said, "Elections have consequences." Have you forgotten?

Obtw, Obama had majorities in both houses his first 2 years. His biggest two pieces of legislation during that time? (1) Failed Obamacare, and (2) A phony "stimulus plan" that was nothing but payback to his political cronies.


Nice try, though.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:50 am to
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This thread is not about Obama's approval, it's about his accomplishments and effectiveness.
Did you not read the original quote that I posted at the beginning of this thread which led to my response?
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Oh, and good luck finding very many people who still admit to having supported him. It was easier to find someone who admitted they liked disco in 1982, than it is to find a proud Obama supporter in 2017
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 9:51 am
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
20199 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 9:56 am to
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What was Obama's approval ratings on his last day in office?


What were the right track/wrong track numbers on Obama's last day in office?

Obama was an affirmative action president. Him being in the White House was the ultimate salve to soothe people's guilt about the racial history of the US.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49974 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:04 am to
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Failure"...is in the eye of the beholder, KC. The Community Organizer strategy of overloading the Government Subsidy System toward ultimate "engineered collapse" and total Government *rescue*...has been wildly successful. From Healthcare to illegal immigrant *rights*, near half the Nation is now on board with the Globalist Authoritarian Socialist agenda, with either Balkanization and/or civil war a real possibility. 

I'd say Obama was very successful. Sadly so. 



I agree with all of This, RCD. The article was evaluating Obama in a conventional sense; that is, from the standpoint of anything he actually did FOR America. From that perspective, BHO was a miserable failure.

But, from the perspective of what Obama's personal agenda was? You're absolutely right. He purposely did much damage to America. I've known that. That's why I often refer to hi. as an anti-American, community-agitating POS.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:11 am to
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Oh, and good luck finding very many people who still admit to having supported him. It was easier to find someone who admitted they liked disco in 1982, than it is to find a proud Obama supporter in 2017


All you have to do, bv, is become a little more perceptive while reading this board. Posters here who did nothing but support & defend Obama FOR YEARS are now acting like they weren't really for him.

You should already know that, bv, bc (1) I've had multiple conversations with many of them lately, and (2) obviously, you read every post I make.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:12 am to
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All you have to do, bv, is become a little more perceptive while reading this board. Posters here who did nothing but support & defend Obama FOR YEARS are now acting like they weren't really for him.
Well you tend to calm a bunch of people Obama supporters, who clearly aren't so why don't you clear things up and actually show this so called support.

You often seem to be in a different reality than the rest of us when it comes to these things.
This post was edited on 4/9/17 at 10:15 am
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:15 am to
A nice fantasy for the Cuckservatives to Fap to.
Posted by Bullethead88
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4202 posts
Posted on 4/9/17 at 10:19 am to


I guess I can assume from your childish, inept response that you couldn't think of any worthwhile, coherent, response to my post. Well at least that kept you from making a fool of yourself.
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