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re: NY Post: Time to Face Facts; Obama's Presidency Was a Failure
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:02 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:02 pm to Lsupimp
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I approve of you and you suck as a poster. I approve of the New Orleans saints and they are really bad. You love boy bands and other umm... stuff. People like things that aren't good or successful all the time.
Precisely. "Approve" is such a malleable polling device. His failure is best evidenced by republican domination of every realm of government at the moment.
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Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:04 pm to buckeye_vol
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Correlation with what?
With better quotients for measuring job growth effectiveness, for one thing.
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:10 pm to PoundFoolish
quote:Like what? Maybe you guys are talking about actual competencies, but as it relates to subjective support, those data are irrelevant and approval ratings are one of the most appropriate measure.
With better quotients for measuring job effectiveness, for one thing.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:13 pm to montanagator
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Here are 13 polls of Obama’s job approval his last few weeks
This is not a comprehensive set.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:16 pm to PoundFoolish
quote:That's a very comprehensive set. They all have large sample sizes, so 13 would give a good meta analytic representation. You're requesting a bunch of irrelevant or unnecessary data and analyses.
This is not a comprehensive set.
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:18 pm to buckeye_vol
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Like what?
Like the approval of economic effectiveness in relation to overall market and growth (not just with higher stocks because lower federal reserve rates).
Like the approval of competencies relating to foreign policy.
"Approval" is too vague and unsubstantiated a term to determine favorability.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:19 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
That's a very comprehensive set
From a month on the job . . . don't think so.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:21 pm to PoundFoolish
quote:No approval is vague for that very reason. You're looking for objective data, which is superior; however, given the OP's statements. Approval ratings refute that. Now that doesn't mean that relates to actual job performance; in fact, that's too often unrelated altogether.
Like the approval of economic effectiveness in relation to overall market and growth (not just with higher stocks because lower federal reserve rates).
Like the approval of competencies relating to foreign policy.
"Approval" is too vague and unsubstantiated a term to determine favorability.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:23 pm to buckeye_vol
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You're looking for objective data, which is superior
And can be obtained through proper research.
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Approval ratings refute that.
Not over the course of his tenure, and certainly not over the course of his last three years in office.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:24 pm to PoundFoolish
quote:What? It tells us what people thought of Obama in his last days, which is just relevant to KCT's statement that it's hard to find anybody who supports him.
From a month on the job . . . don't think so.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:24 pm to KCT
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NY Post: Time to Face Facts; Obama's Presidency Was a Failure
What, I didn't realize anybody was actually questioning that?
Obama is the WORST. Duh
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:26 pm to PoundFoolish
quote:But those data are not relevant to this specific discussion. They are more important than subjective support, but at are discussing subjective support.
And can be obtained through proper research.
quote:The discussion is about right now; those data are the closest to the present as we have.
Not over the course of his tenure, and certainly not over the course of his last three years in office.
You're talking about a bunch of unrelated things. Look at the OP.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:27 pm to KCT
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you joking? Have you forgotten about the Cambridge Police situation? Trayvon Martin (his son)? Ferguson? Baltimore? Embracing a domestic terrorist organization like blm? Choosing Al Sharpton as his chief advisor on race relations? Hell, he created a racially toxic environment that led to an epidemic of cop assassinations.
This is all mainstream Democrat party now. Hostile to law enforcement, hostile to whites. I don't think he moved the party. I think that's just where the party is now. They're loons and Obama was typical of that. Even restrained compared to the open racism against whites we often see from black politicians.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:28 pm to buckeye_vol
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The discussion is about right now; those data are the closest to the present as we have.
You're talking about a bunch of unrelated things. Look at the OP.
The OP may have said something different. But the article headline (and I didn't read the whole article) seems to be referencing the tenure overall.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:28 pm to KCT
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Oh, and good luck finding very many people who still admit to having supported him. It was easier to find someone who admitted they liked disco in 1982, than it is to find a proud Obama supporter
You are seriously delusional or live under a rock.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:30 pm to PoundFoolish
quote:OK. We were discussing something different.
The OP may have said something different. But the article headline (and I didn't read the whole article) seems to be referencing the tenure overall.
I agree with you now that I see what you're focusing on.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:30 pm to gthog61
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quote:
What was Obama's approval ratings on his last day in office?
What are Trump's current ones?
That is an idiotic argument given the nature of the media.
It's like saying Independence Day 2 is a better artist than Whiplash bc it made more money
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:31 pm to biglego
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Even restrained compared to the open racism against whites we often see from black politicia
I would question this simply based on the actions, not necessarily words, of Obama. Remember, he actually had Deray Mckesson and BLM to the WH the week AFTER the Dallas shootings. And don't forget his bromance with Sharpton (invited dozens of times to the WH). This type of thing doesn't tell me he is/was all that restrained.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:32 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 4/8/17 at 4:33 pm to PoundFoolish
Maybe so. But the DNC honored BLM at it's convention. Maybe Obama pushed the Dems that direction but it never seemed that way to me. Seems the other way around.
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