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re: NY Post: Time to Face Facts; Obama's Presidency Was a Failure
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:01 pm to KCT
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:01 pm to KCT
quote:Maybe they will be, but the one survey that I've seen to suggest this was way too flawed to determine this. They could only indirectly measure the views of like 15 year olds and the issue that led to that was gay marriage, which is probably not the most accurate thing to measure with pubescsent teens.
I keep hearing that Generation Z is going to be one of the most conservative generations in America's history.
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 3:02 pm
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Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:01 pm to AUsteriskPride
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Your Obama obsession continues I see.
He just left office 4 months ago. I don't see the issue with discussing the problems he left behind.
Not only that, but Obama is still making news.
YUUUGE news.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:02 pm to Dale51
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Non sequitur.
Appeal to popularity Fallacy.
No, given that the statement was a response to quote stating it was almost impossible to find an Obama supporter popularity goes to the heart of the issue at hand.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:02 pm to montanagator
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Um.... you know this isn't true right?
Of course. Oshithead was always too black to fail in WAY too many people's minds.
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Obama left office with suppprt levels comparable to Reagan.
Would you be referencing the #VeryFakeNews or your own unmitigated ignorance for this knowledge?
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:06 pm to PoundFoolish
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Would you be referencing the #VeryFakeNews or your own unmitigated ignorance for this knowledge?
The real world. You know outside of the absurd conservative echo chamber the PT is at times.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:08 pm to Dale51
quote:This is in direct to the response OP:
Non sequitur.
Appeal to popularity Fallacy.
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Oh, and good luck finding very many people who still admit to having supported him.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:08 pm to montanagator
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The real world
Ohhhh . . . you mean your bubble. Gotcha.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:25 pm to KCT
Even from the perspective of successfully conditioned products of Frankfurt School/Tavistock Institute methods by acolytes in academia, media and gov't programs over these many years, his stint was a disappointment.
They expected a much more effective assault on and undermining of this remaining bastion of Western Culture. That's why they were so counting on Hillary to achieve the elusive final synthesis. And why the abject hysteria reached such never before seen levels. But they'll keep trying.
They expected a much more effective assault on and undermining of this remaining bastion of Western Culture. That's why they were so counting on Hillary to achieve the elusive final synthesis. And why the abject hysteria reached such never before seen levels. But they'll keep trying.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:25 pm to PoundFoolish
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Ohhhh . . . you mean your bubble. Gotcha.
Right. So if you ignore polls, votes, the being mobbed by crowds of cheering supporters wherever he goes (in contrast to handpicked rallies) and the states where the majority of Americans live then Obama isn't popular.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:27 pm to montanagator
You don't think Obama only goes where he's liked?
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:29 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
They could only indirectly measure the views of like 15 year olds and the issue that led to that was gay marriage, which is probably not the most accurate thing to measure with pubescsent teens
To be fair Gay Marriage isn't really a left/right issue anymore, its like asking kids if they approve of desegregation support is basically universal across the political spectrum for everyone under say 45
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:30 pm to montanagator
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So if you ignore poll
The same pollsters that had HRC in a landslide? Get outta here . . .
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votes
The ones which his DHS tampered with or the outright illegal ones?
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the being mobbed by crowds of cheering supporters wherever he goes
Are fricking serious, dude? The guy was playing to media sycophants and minority/marginalized ingrates his whole damned career. Name one time did he went outside of his bubble.
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(in contrast to handpicked rallies) and the states where the majority of Americans live then Obama isn't popular.
learn some punctuation or better transitional rhetoric
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:34 pm to montanagator
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:36 pm to olddawg26
quote:
Are you ever going to stop posting about obama?
For 6 years after Bush was out of office Obama blamed him. 3 Months after Obama is out and you are ready for people to walk away and forget his legacy?
Can't say I blame you, actually.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:41 pm to PoundFoolish
So essentially there is no amount of proof that will show you that the statement about it being hard to find any Obama supporters is false?
Because it's really hard to find any credible source that would argue with the contention that he's the most widely respected and admired living American President.
Because it's really hard to find any credible source that would argue with the contention that he's the most widely respected and admired living American President.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:45 pm to montanagator
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So essentially there is no amount of proof that will show you that the statement about it being hard to find any Obama supporters is false?
Wrong. Show me a quantitative data set with a strong correlation coefficient, and I will concede facts which point to truth.
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Because it's really hard to find any credible source that would argue with the contention that he's the most widely respected and admired living American President.
That's because there aren't any.
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:53 pm to PoundFoolish
quote:Correlation with what? This seems like a request for unnecessary data when the descriptive data from the survey is exactly what we need.
Show me a quantitative data set with a strong correlation coefficient, and I will concede facts which point to truth.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:53 pm to PoundFoolish
Here are 13 polls of Obama’s job approval his last few weeks in office from liberal, conservative and non-partisan pollsters: His approval ranges from 54 to 62 and every single poll has a split of at least +12
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:56 pm to asurob1
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What was Obama's approval ratings on his last day in office?
I support whomever is our current President. I want each President to be successful. Everyone defines "success" differently of course. I want our country in better shape when a President leaves office than when the President took office.
Success, as I define it, is...
Improvement for most citizens to some degree through sound leadership and policy (economic, social, etc).
Workable political climate through the President's leadership.
Strong political and economic position internationally.
Leadership and realistic optimism to the citizens; that is, he communicates with us and takes quick actions to deal with problems.
To me, Bush sucked and Obama sucked worse. We will see what happens with Trump.
Clinton was smarter than most think and so was Bush I. I loved Reagan.
However, I do not give a shite about approval polls. They do not show results. They do not even imply results; only likeability
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:57 pm to KCT
Horrible son of a bitch he is.
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