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re: NY Post: Time to Face Facts; Obama's Presidency Was a Failure
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:18 pm to PoundFoolish
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:18 pm to PoundFoolish
You implied that the people you disagree with are ALWAYS dealing in fake news.
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Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:22 pm to KCT
quote:Well libertarianism is essentially classical liberalism so that's not surprising.
There are a good many liberals here. Some of them, like losh, try to camoflouge their left-wing nature by falsely portraying themselves as libertarian.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:23 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Obama was in the unique position to pretty much end racism in this country once and for all.
Lol tf
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:25 pm to buckeye_vol
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There are a good many liberals here. Some of them, like losh, try to camoflouge their left-wing nature by falsely portraying themselves as libertarian.
Well libertarianism is essentially classical liberalism so that's not surprising.
That's bullshite. Rand Paul has strong libertarian leanings. I dare you to tell me he's a liberal. classical or otherwise.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:26 pm to olddawg26
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You implied that the people you disagree with are ALWAYS dealing in fake news.
No I didn't
I implied that the people purveying the most distorted orientations to truth (and, often, outright falsehoods) are libtards. It has nothing to do with my agreeing with them personally.
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:27 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Obama was in the unique position to pretty much end racism in this country once and for all.
Lol tf
Oh, look. Another "libertarian" just showed up.
Maybe I should coin a new term. Liberaltarian.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:32 pm to Dr RC
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Trump didn't run against Obama so that really doesn't mean much. It's not like Hillary has ever been close to being as popular as him.
Ok, same population that voted for Trump and Hillary in the primaries.
The point remains
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:33 pm to KCT
Add to it that many of supporters don't even know what bathroom to use!
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:44 pm to asurob1
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What was Obama's approval ratings on his last day in office?
What are Trump's current ones?
That is an idiotic argument given the nature of the media.
You know that, but it does not matter.
NAme any aspect of anything obama touched that does not now need a massive revision, and he has only been out of office <3 months.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:45 pm to buckeye_vol
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The same poll that didn't actually poll the presidential race?
O'rly?
Nominee favorable unfavorable 2016 Nov 2-5
D. Trump 36 61
H. Clinton 47 52
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:47 pm to League Champs
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O'rly?
Nominee favorable unfavorable 2016 Nov 2-5
D. Trump 36 61
H. Clinton 47 52
They did stop polling after the primaries, but still maintained their "opinions of candidates" polling all the way through.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:48 pm to KCT
quote:You don't say!
Obama's Presidency Was a Failure
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:48 pm to KCT
quote:In 2017!conceptualization probably not. But his views are very consistent with classical liberalism (liberty, free markets). Of course, liberals and conservatives today often espouse principles that are quite different than they were traditionally.
That's bull shite. Rand Paul has strong libertarian leanings. I dare you to tell me he's a liberal. classical or otherwise.
But I an confident that Rand Paul would agree that he has many views that were considered classically liberal.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:51 pm to buckeye_vol
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But I an confident that Rand Paul would agree that he has many views that were considered classically liberal.
You're right here. Rand is no fan of Israel.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:51 pm to League Champs
quote:Yeah. They did/do approval/favorability ratings, and didn't poll the race itself.
O'rly?
Nominee favorable unfavorable 2016 Nov 2-5
D. Trump 36 61
H. Clinton 47 52
Favorability is important, but it is a small to moderate correlate to the actual race itself. In fact, reseach suggests competency ratings are a better proxy for the race.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:54 pm to KCT
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I keep hearing that Generation Z is going to be one of the most conservative generations in America's history.
Grow up quickly, boys & girls. We need you.
I'm seeing it ... I believe that's going to prove to be the case, I honestly do. It's a little reminiscent of what happened in the 70s. Carter caused a seismic shift from the left to the right. I believe we'll see something similar post Obama ... even from the Hispanic community. I really do.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:56 pm to scrooster
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I'm seeing it ... I believe that's going to prove to be the case, I honestly do. It's a little reminiscent of what happened in the 70s. Carter caused a seismic shift from the left to the right. I believe we'll see something similar post Obama ... even from the Hispanic community. I really do.
I believe it is more the case that the left is pushing further left, almost as far as it will go . . . the moderates have little recourse but to become more conservative.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:57 pm to asurob1
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Your Obama obsession continues I see.
He just left office 4 months ago. I don't see the issue with discussing the problems he left behind.
Posted on 4/8/17 at 2:59 pm to KCT
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Oh, and good luck finding very many people who still admit to having supported him. It was easier to find someone who admitted they liked disco in 1982, than it is to find a proud Obama supporter in 2017
Um.... you know this isn't true right?
Obama left office with support levels comparable to Reagan.
This post was edited on 4/8/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 4/8/17 at 3:00 pm to asurob1
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asurob1
I'll spot you Grown men legally being able to use the little girl's bathroom...now, name 3 more of Obama's accomplishments. Hell...just 2.
I'll wait while you google them up
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