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re: Nunes: Formal, foreign surveillance was used on Trump; Obama admin surveilled associates

Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by member12
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
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Which means we're exactly where we were a month ago, with Obama not involved and Trump not targeted


Uh....we have rival political campaign officials being "wiretapped". We deserve to know exactly why especially since this Russians conspiracy theory is backed up by zero proof or evidence.

Don't think that this is going away.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

says President Trump's personal communications may have been collected


But no wiretap.

The amount if bullshite spewed from the MSM and the left (even on this board) is amazing.

Almost like they had a party line to follow.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:36 pm to
didn't we already know all of this?

Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:37 pm to
Establishment getting their cover up lined up, and was smart to use a Republican to get the ball rolling.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:37 pm to
False thread title. The tweet says they were under surveillance during Obama administration. Not that Obama administration surveilled. Foreign surveillance. Incidental. Melt on people
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:38 pm to
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It doesn't matter if it was legally collected. The fact is they spied on Trump Campaign.
No, someone spied on people who weren't part of the Trump campaign, and that person spoke to people who were part of the Trump campaign, resulting in incidental collection of those conversations with the Trump campaign. The goal was not to intercept Trump campaign communications, it was to intercept the target's conversations.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167571 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:38 pm to
When the other thread said Nunes was having a presser @ 1 today. I found nothing in the news but some random tweet.

Your OP shows this breaking minutes ago. But a news search shows

quote:

Politico reported this 12 hours Nunes: Trump transition members were under surveillance during Obama administration
Politico · 12 hours ago


Were documents verified regarding the whistle blower having the evidence of the Trump Towers addies being surveiled? Is this why ABC News reported this morning a Russian big wig was being spied on in Trump Towers?

Does anyone have a link of Nunes presser? Why wasn't CNN and others on this LIVE like white on rice?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47623 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:38 pm to
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This proves Trump right in an alternate universe where he Tweeted "the intelligence community was watching some people on my transition team" and not "How low has President Obama gone to tapp [sic] my phones"


This is such a weak argument. Are the phones of his businesses, campaign, and residences not "his phones"?
Is Obama's name not synonymous with his administration in the social media, in the news, and in conversation? Bush to this very day is blamed, by name, for the faulty intelligence of his IC leading up to the Iraq war.

So we'very gone from "Trump is a goddam liar and no spying occurred" to "Trump didn't word his tweet well enough". Sad.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:38 pm to
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didn't we already know all of this?



Some (many) were denying that anyone involved with the Trump campaign were even being watched during a highly contentious election hear in which he faced off against one of the most corrupt persons to seek higher office.
Posted by someoldhussy
Candyland
Member since Jun 2007
2439 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:38 pm to
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He literally said Trump's aassociates were being surveilled under the Obama Administration. That's a quote



You're right. I am also quoting his literal words where he contradicts that statement. Whether he realizes it or not he is saying two different things.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:39 pm to
LITERALLY NIXON/MCCARTHY/WATERGATE/A NEW LOW
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
47028 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:39 pm to
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They were under surveillance by foreign entities




Foreign agencies can get FISA warrants? Quit talking out of your arse, he said FISA warrants were used
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:39 pm to
Which means we're exactly where we were a month ago, with Obama not involved and Trump not targeted. Nunes squirting ink at the press doesn't change that.

You have to be kidding me.

Just admit this shite happened and move on. The government spied on the Trump campaign. The only real question is was there a legitimate reason to do so.

Oh , also, there is of course a question of did Jame COmey know about it and lie to Congress on Monday, or is just inept?

Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:39 pm to
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So we'very gone from "Trump is a goddam liar and no spying occurred" to "Trump didn't word his tweet well enough". Sad.



There will be a lot of crawfishing about this in the coming days.
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:39 pm to
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Uh....we have rival political campaign officials being "wiretapped". We deserve to know exactly why especially since this Russians conspiracy theory is backed up by zero proof or evidence.
There's a pretty sizable paper trail going from Russian oligarchs to Manafort's pockets.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80008 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:39 pm to
Not a smidgen.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:39 pm to
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didn't we already know all of this?
The bit about it being unrelated to Russia is new, and that's actually a fairly important detail.
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Just admit this shite happened and move on. The government spied on the Trump campaign.
I was "admitting" this last month. The difference is I don't think it was ordered by Obama and I don't think it was ordered against Trump himself.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:40 pm to
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False thread title. The tweet says they were under surveillance during Obama administration. Not that Obama administration surveilled. They were under surveillance by foreign entities

Only the Obama administration could have ordered the surveillance. Stop playing semantics now that Trump has been proven right
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Member since Jun 2009
13493 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:40 pm to
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You have to be kidding me.

Just admit this shite happened and move on. The government spied on the Trump campaign. The only real question is was there a legitimate reason to do so.

Oh , also, there is of course a question of did Jame COmey know about it and lie to Congress on Monday, or is just inept?
What Nunes said doesn't support anything you said in this post.
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