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NPR comes to the realization that Civil War is indeed a possibility
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:34 pm
It sounds to me like liberals are starting to worry that they can't just "wait us out" demographically, and that it may come to shooting... and divorce... before victory just falls into their lap.
NPR: Imagine another American Civil War, but this time in every state
You can tell from the excerpts that the article is written from a completely leftist point of view ("Democracy in decline in 2016" ); but also, the fear this article in palpable. They're finally starting to realize that the more they frick around, they really may find out.
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"We already are seeing 'border war' with individual states passing major legislation that differs considerably from that in other places," says Darrell West, director of governance studies at the Brookings Institution, and William Gale, a Brookings senior fellow in economic studies, who have written a pair of articles on the fraying of the American social and political fabric.
They note that conflicts between entire states are not the only way civil war may emerge in our time, or even the most likely. When and if the issue turns to violent confrontations between local citizens and federal officers, or between contentious groups of citizens, the clash might well take place far closer to home. As West and Gale write:
Today's toxic atmosphere makes it difficult to negotiate on important issues, which makes people angry with the federal government and has helped create a winner-take-all approach to politics. When the stakes are so high, people are willing to consider extraordinary means to achieve their objectives.
And what do these careful scholars mean by "extraordinary means"?
"America has an extraordinary number of guns and private militias," they write. How many? They cite the National Shooting Sports Foundation's estimate of 434 million firearms in civilian possession in the U.S. right now. That would be 1.3 guns per person.
"Semi-automatic weapons comprise around 19.8 million in total," they add ominously, "making for a highly armed population with potentially dangerous capabilities."
The New York Times recently reviewed How Civil Wars Start by political scientist Barbara F. Walter of the University of California at San Diego. In an interview with NPR member station KPBS in San Diego a year ago, Walter said the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol was surprising but should not have been because we had been watching "American democracy decline since 2016."
A scholar of international law, Walter adds: "The U.S. used to be considered a full democracy like Norway, Switzerland or Iceland," she said, "and it's now considered a partial democracy like Ecuador, Somalia or Haiti."
NPR: Imagine another American Civil War, but this time in every state
You can tell from the excerpts that the article is written from a completely leftist point of view ("Democracy in decline in 2016" ); but also, the fear this article in palpable. They're finally starting to realize that the more they frick around, they really may find out.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:37 pm to DesScorp
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A scholar of international law, Walter adds: "The U.S. used to be considered a full democracy like Norway, Switzerland or Iceland," she said, "and it's now considered a partial democracy like Ecuador, Somalia or Haiti."
I mean, what do you say to someone who willingly publishes this type of tripe?
One side clearly wants the "civil" war.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:39 pm to DesScorp
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434 million firearms
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Semi-automatic weapons comprise around 19.8 million in total,
So… 414~ million guns in America are either bolt action, single action, or select fire?
Ima call bullshite on that number.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:46 pm to beerJeep
Chances are, the author has no personal experience or context in which to frame firearms. They have their definitions jumbled up.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:46 pm to DesScorp
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Today's toxic atmosphere makes it difficult to negotiate on important issues,
I guess this means they realize we aren’t fckg compromising with the enemy anymore. Those days are over.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:50 pm to NineLineBind
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Chances are, the author has no personal experience or context in which to frame firearms. They have their definitions jumbled up.
Yeah. I checked the embedded link that he used to get his numbers…. He’s referencing ar15 style rifles only
Apparently only ar15s are semi automatic. It’s almost laughable how uninformed they are. It’s scary to imagine what else they get wrong in regards to topics we don’t know a lot about
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:25 am to DesScorp
When this war actually starts it won’t take long for these dickheads to realize they’ve made a terrible mistake. They have been pushing and pushing for years and the right has just taken it but when they finally provoke the response they are looking for it they will sue for ceasefire and truce. If it actually gets there, the right has to fight to win. These motherfrickers will need to pay a personal price for what they have done to this country.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 12:37 am to Mike Honcho
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When this war actually starts it won’t take long for these dickheads to realize they’ve made a terrible mistake. They have been pushing and pushing for years and the right has just taken it but when they finally provoke the response they are looking for it they will sue for ceasefire and truce. If it actually gets there, the right has to fight to win. These motherfrickers will need to pay a personal price for what they have done to this country.
My daddy is a USMC Vietnam Vet who thinks he’s still 18 and he’s itching for it so bad. I tell him he is too old to fight and the younger ones need to step up. That just pisses him off more and he tells me, “You really don’t know who you’re talking too & what I’m capable of.. They may kill me but I’m gonna take out so many of them before they even find me.”
He is 72 and the past year I am seeing a side of my daddy I’ve never seen before. I don’t think the other side fully understands the wrath that will rain down on them.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 12:43 am
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:15 am to DesScorp
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They cite the National Shooting Sports Foundation's estimate of 434 million firearms in civilian possession in the U.S. right now. That would be 1.3 guns per person.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:16 am to DesScorp
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NPR comes to the realization that Civil War is indeed a possibility
They might just now realize it but they better hope it doesn't happen. We all better hope it doesn't happen.
A modern American civil war would destroy America, completely change all our lives, and reprogram the entire world. An amicable separation would be more feasible but I fear the authoritarian establishment will never let the two "sides" peacefully divide. A civil war would ruin us all and give them the ultimate power they've always wanted.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:24 am to DesScorp
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we had been watching "American democracy decline since 2016."
Their candidate lost the election and democracy declines as a result? Such drama queens, but sadly the sheeple believe this ridiculous talking point.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:50 am to LSUAngelHere1
That's the unknown they can't grasp. This is all going to happen really fast once it starts. And the media better realize they're going to held accountable for their actions.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 2:03 am to TigerAxeOK
What many people refuse to accept, the people who own this country now, want this civil war. That's how they purge the deadweight and wipeout the ammo stockpiles that some of us have. Then they can just waltz in here and take over, we won't have the means to stop them anymore.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 2:18 am to DesScorp
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A scholar of international law, Walter adds: "The U.S. used to be considered a full democracy like Norway, Switzerland or Iceland," she said, "and it's now considered a partial democracy like Ecuador, Somalia or Haiti."
lol
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the fear this article in palpable. They're finally starting to realize that the more they frick around, they really may find out.
I think it’s a sounding of the alarm for the federal government to bring the full weight of its power to its new domestic terror policy.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 2:23 am to DesScorp
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Today's toxic atmosphere makes it difficult to negotiate on important issues, which makes people angry with the federal government and has helped create a winner-take-all approach to politics. When the stakes are so high, people are willing to consider extraordinary means to achieve their objectives.
Realize that there is zero self reflection and analysis in this viewpoint.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 3:59 am to DesScorp
what is this 'democracy' they speak of?
Posted on 1/16/22 at 5:43 am to Mike Honcho
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when they finally provoke the response they are looking for it they will sue for ceasefire and truce. If it actually gets there, the right has to fight to win. These motherfrickers will need to pay a personal price for what they have done to this country.
Agree, but I do not trust law enforcement or the military to be on the right side. Review their actions during the plandemic for evidence.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 5:53 am to Captain Rumbeard
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And the media better realize they're going to held accountable for their actions.
This could happen now. If EVERYONE who feels this way would stop using media outlets in any way, shape or form who are in collusion with this propaganda, boycott ANY product which advertises on these outlets, I truly believe change would occur. That also includes banking with an institution not beholden to the corporate leftist agenda. It will take a difficult effort on ALL, but wouldn't it be worth it? Money talks, bullshite walks, that's how you force change. But I am not confident we are willing to make "sacrifices". Hence, the alternative may be even more costly.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 6:02 am to DesScorp
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Today's toxic atmosphere makes it difficult to negotiate on important issues,
The author is not wrong, but likely believes the voting "rights" bill is necessary because poor people don't have some "rights" middle and upper class white people have.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 6:07 am to DesScorp
Debating on getting an AR10. 1 of them rounds could take out a handful in a riot type scenario.
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