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re: Now that Iran has claimed victory what realistic and sensible options are left for the US.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 11:50 pm to Gunny Hartman
Posted on 7/28/26 at 11:50 pm to Gunny Hartman
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I sure hope America never has a “victory” that consists of our military being neutered, our leadership being killed off and our main source of revenue being shut off so our economy crashes. I guess the Japs won WWII by your logic.
You have to consider there is a scenario where both parties lose
If you get in a fight with your neighbor (that you started) and ultimately prevail but wind up with brain damage and a felony did you really "win" anything?
Posted on 7/29/26 at 12:15 am to Bass Tiger
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Iran has indeed won this military conflict.
You are mentally incapacitated.
Posted on 7/29/26 at 12:19 am to LSUbest
They have won. They control the straight and no amount of air power is going to solve that.
Posted on 7/29/26 at 1:33 am to DeBoar
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Let the military do its job, that’s what you pay taxes for and sleep well at night because of.
Iran has never once even slightly kept me up at night
Posted on 7/29/26 at 1:38 am to Bass Tiger
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If that's the fricking deal that's a bad deal. If that deal is struck the US should take all of it's domestic O&G production of the global market and let all the nations who depend of ME oil figure it out for themselves, we'll keep our O&G and depend on no one. GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE!!!
Your solution to Iran is to nationalize the US Oil and Gas industry? Lmao ok commie
Posted on 7/29/26 at 1:46 am to DeBoar
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So who is better than Trump to fix this? Let’s hear it.
A retarded gay turtle
Posted on 7/29/26 at 5:53 am to Bass Tiger
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as of today many military strategists could make a solid argument that Iran has indeed won this military conflict.
Name them. Except for extreme political hacks I have seen no one and I mean no one claim Iran has one or is winning.
Posted on 7/29/26 at 7:34 am to jimmy the leg
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Sporadic power, limited water (Mother Nature) and ethnic divisions = issues for the regime.
This has been an on going issue before the strikes.
Posted on 7/29/26 at 8:28 am to Bass Tiger
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If Iran is a stronger power in the ME after this military conflict
Please elaborate on how they would be stronger?
Posted on 7/29/26 at 8:35 am to Powerman
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Which is exactly the type of war that we didn't intend to get into
If you're honest you would at least acknowledge that
Trump isn't Bush or Obama. He will not drag this out for years and years.
Iran had almost 50 years to build up its military, acquire drones and missiles and work on nuclear development. It takes time to end something that has taken decades to fabricate. Maybe it takes another 6 months, or maybe a year.
Iran is very weak right now. They are doing there best to hold on. It won't last.
In the end, The US will prevail and the Iranian threat will be gone and the world will be better off.
Posted on 7/29/26 at 8:59 am to hubertcumberdale
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So who is better than Trump to fix this? Let’s hear it.
A retarded gay turtle
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hubertcumberdale
Always gay with you libtards
Posted on 7/29/26 at 9:07 am to Bass Tiger
You think the U.S. military just lets every member of the U.S. public and the entire world know their entire strategy and plan in military conflicts? You're a special kind of dumb.
Posted on 7/29/26 at 9:49 am to Bass Tiger
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the Islamic Regime survives they will not only be embolden but they will also garner more power and influence in the ME.
Before all of this, the SOH was open.
In the latest round of negotiations we offered Iran a deal by which they would share control of the SOH with Oman. Iran rejected our proposal.
Now get your mind around that. We offered them a part of something they didn't have before. And they rejected it in favor of trying to get all of something they didnt have before.
How is that anything but a Win for Iran?
Posted on 7/29/26 at 9:50 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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They control the straight
Means they can still launch a missile or drone into the strait?
So if I can throw a rock in your window I control your house?
Posted on 7/29/26 at 9:54 am to No Colors
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In the latest round of negotiations we offered Iran a deal by which they would share control of the SOH with Oman.
False. The US did not make this offer. You are conflating Oman's proposal and Iran's demand to have partial control.
Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:00 am to LSUbest
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So if I can throw a rock in your window I control your house?
If you throw multiple rocks and make me afraid to enter or leave my home then, yes you control the house.
Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:03 am to Bass Tiger
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what's the best solution for the US at this point in time?
Get our arse the frick out of the middle east. Best time to do this would have been 30 years ago, but the second best time to do it is RIGHT NOW.
Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:11 am to Bass Tiger
Choices are tough, between:
Losing small. Embarrassing. Walking away with tail between our legs because we have no answers. Sunk costs are gone. Waste of money, some lives, military equipment, and political goodwill.
Losing big. Crippling. Doubling down on a bad idea. Troops on the ground. Make US troops sitting duck targets, thousands of miles from home. Guerrilla warfare tactics like Vietnam in a foreign land. Slowly bleed US money, lives, military equipment, and political goodwill at a far greater amount, over a longer period of time.
Losing small. Embarrassing. Walking away with tail between our legs because we have no answers. Sunk costs are gone. Waste of money, some lives, military equipment, and political goodwill.
Losing big. Crippling. Doubling down on a bad idea. Troops on the ground. Make US troops sitting duck targets, thousands of miles from home. Guerrilla warfare tactics like Vietnam in a foreign land. Slowly bleed US money, lives, military equipment, and political goodwill at a far greater amount, over a longer period of time.
This post was edited on 7/29/26 at 10:14 am
Posted on 7/29/26 at 10:13 am to DeBoar
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Let the military do its job, that’s what you pay taxes for and sleep well at night because of.
So, I assume you and your family are ready to join the military?
I for sure would advise my Grandchildren not to to join unless we are invaded.
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