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Now that Iran has claimed victory what realistic and sensible options are left for the US.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:02 pm
When Iran claimed victory after the MOU imploded it wasn't some Bagdad Bob moment, they truly believe they have defeated the Great Satan and as of today many military strategists could make a solid argument that Iran has indeed won this military conflict.
Could the US obliterate Iran with nuclear weapons? Yes.
Could the US decimate Iran's critical infrastructure thereby creating a catastrophic humanitarian crisis? Yes.
Most rational military strategists would consider these ^^^^ two options off the table. Neither option would be seriously considered until the war had escalated into a global conflict and then ......well you know.
I'll be honest, I'm not sure of the best path forward.
A full on military onslaught with a ground invasion seems unlikely without several other nations pledging ground soldiers and equipment. I can't imagine the US getting any substantial support from any nation other than Israel. I think the US/Israel are concerned if they proceed with a ground invasion the potential for other nations coming to the aid of the Islamic Regime is a real possibility. You see, Russia and China are giddy right now, they see the US and Israel with their tallywackers in a ringer and no easy way to back out and save face.
I have no military experience but I think if the US wanted to choke Iran out by using economic and financial warfare it could be done given time. I know the risk of a global recession/depression is also a possibility but that may be a better route than sending hundreds of thousands of US soldiers into Iran for a hard slog and then an extended occupation. Unfortunately for the US there is an internal war going on inside the US over the direction of the nation and that only complicates the ability for the US to execute an effective military campaign against the Islamic Regime. What makes matters worse is the fact there are way too many Americans who either support or sympathize with the Islamists who control Iran. Yeah, we got a fricking king size mess.
Or, as many on this forum have said for months, claim victory and leave, but that will difficult now that the MOU has imploded and Iran has claimed victory to the world over the Great Satan. If Iran is a stronger power in the ME after this military conflict it will not be just a victory for Iran, it will be a victory for the CCP and other nations who want the US on its knees.
I know there are a few PT regulars who have significant military experience....what's the best solution for the US at this point in time?
Could the US obliterate Iran with nuclear weapons? Yes.
Could the US decimate Iran's critical infrastructure thereby creating a catastrophic humanitarian crisis? Yes.
Most rational military strategists would consider these ^^^^ two options off the table. Neither option would be seriously considered until the war had escalated into a global conflict and then ......well you know.
I'll be honest, I'm not sure of the best path forward.
A full on military onslaught with a ground invasion seems unlikely without several other nations pledging ground soldiers and equipment. I can't imagine the US getting any substantial support from any nation other than Israel. I think the US/Israel are concerned if they proceed with a ground invasion the potential for other nations coming to the aid of the Islamic Regime is a real possibility. You see, Russia and China are giddy right now, they see the US and Israel with their tallywackers in a ringer and no easy way to back out and save face.
I have no military experience but I think if the US wanted to choke Iran out by using economic and financial warfare it could be done given time. I know the risk of a global recession/depression is also a possibility but that may be a better route than sending hundreds of thousands of US soldiers into Iran for a hard slog and then an extended occupation. Unfortunately for the US there is an internal war going on inside the US over the direction of the nation and that only complicates the ability for the US to execute an effective military campaign against the Islamic Regime. What makes matters worse is the fact there are way too many Americans who either support or sympathize with the Islamists who control Iran. Yeah, we got a fricking king size mess.
Or, as many on this forum have said for months, claim victory and leave, but that will difficult now that the MOU has imploded and Iran has claimed victory to the world over the Great Satan. If Iran is a stronger power in the ME after this military conflict it will not be just a victory for Iran, it will be a victory for the CCP and other nations who want the US on its knees.
I know there are a few PT regulars who have significant military experience....what's the best solution for the US at this point in time?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:04 pm to Bass Tiger
Let the military do its job, that’s what you pay taxes for and sleep well at night because of.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:04 pm to DeBoar
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Let the military do its job, that’s what you pay taxes for and sleep well at night because of.
Right, agree. What's the strategy?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:06 pm to Bass Tiger
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What's the strategy?
No idea but the pentagon has many with many contingencies.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:07 pm to DeBoar
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What's the strategy?
No idea but the pentagon has many with many contingencies.
Thanks for your contribution, was looking for some critical thinking towards a solution.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:07 pm to Bass Tiger
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as of today many military strategists could make a solid argument that Iran has indeed won this military conflict.
This is laughable.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:08 pm to Bass Tiger
Get out and write if off. This will not be much different from the quagmire of Iraq and Afghanistan.
No country on earth can square us up on conventional combat. Now the war is assymetrical and there’s where Iran thrives. We can’t effectively dig them out without spending tremendous numbers of lives and treasure.
No country on earth can square us up on conventional combat. Now the war is assymetrical and there’s where Iran thrives. We can’t effectively dig them out without spending tremendous numbers of lives and treasure.
This post was edited on 7/28/26 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:09 pm to Bass Tiger
Somebody said in another thread tonight, we probably have to concede on the Strait in exchange for something on nukes. I think Iran would go for that, but when you get down to details, who knows?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:10 pm to DeBoar
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Let the military do its job
I'm still not clear on what job the military waa told to do.
Tactically, they destroyed 15,000 targets. Great job.
Strategically, what did they accomplish?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:11 pm to Bass Tiger
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What's the strategy?
Quasi siege.
Iran has MAJOR issues internally that pre-existed this conflict.
Mother Nature, and a desperate (and divided) population are going to be VERY tough for them to manage going forward.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:12 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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as of today many military strategists could make a solid argument that Iran has indeed won this military conflict.
This is laughable.
The Islamic Regime is still in control and by that measure they 100% believe that have won. Is their nation being slapped around? Yes, but they only care about remaining in power and thumbing their nose at the US.
I think most military strategists would agree if the Islamic Regime survives they will not only be embolden but they will also garner more power and influence in the ME.
Back to the question, what's the path forward?
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:12 pm to No Colors
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Strategically, what did they accomplish?
Sporadic power, limited water (Mother Nature) and ethnic divisions = issues for the regime.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:12 pm to jimmy the leg
The population was supposed to rise up six months ago
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:13 pm to jimmy the leg
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Mother Nature, and a desperate (and divided) population are going to be VERY tough for them to manage going forward.
This is the answer, but unfortunately being as indiscriminate as we were might have further secured their position.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:13 pm to Bass Tiger
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Back to the question, what's the path forward?
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Quasi siege. Iran has MAJOR issues internally that pre-existed this conflict. Mother Nature, and a desperate (and divided) population are going to be VERY tough for them to manage going forward.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:14 pm to NIH
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The population was supposed to rise up six months ago
They did and Iran clamped down.
We just took the worst option to take advantage of it.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:14 pm to Bass Tiger
Just like LSU couldn’t declare victory for the 2011 season neither can Iran….
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:15 pm to Bigbens42
We also have to keep in mind that even if we do manage to overthrow the IRGC the result might not be better in the long run.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:17 pm to Bass Tiger
Regime change via Iranian civil war. And give the uprising some damn attack drones from Ukraine.
Posted on 7/28/26 at 9:17 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Somebody said in another thread tonight, we probably have to concede on the Strait in exchange for something on nukes. I think Iran would go for that, but when you get down to details, who knows?
Allow Iran to control the strait? Trust Iran to not continue their pursuit of nukes when we have repeatedly verified they are untrustworthy?
If that's the fricking deal that's a bad deal. If that deal is struck the US should take all of it's domestic O&G production of the global market and let all the nations who depend of ME oil figure it out for themselves, we'll keep our O&G and depend on no one. GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE!!!
And decouple from CHINA!!!!
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