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re: Not sure why pro-choice folk are up in arms the California/Louisiana abortion pill case

Posted on 2/6/26 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by RedStickFox
Member since Sep 2022
561 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 1:37 pm to
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Yes or no:


Yes or no. Are my nuts salty when you gargle them?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
59300 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 1:57 pm to
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Don’t have to.


So you guarantee but ... then don't?

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The opposite of what is posted on this far right Nazi porn bar is the objective truth.


Your posts prove that the opposite of objective truth can be posted here.

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No reason to ever provide any of you with the benefit of the doubt.


And you've proven you can't be trusted with the benefit of doubt because you fail to find out even the most simple facts on your own. Pot... kettle.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21027 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 2:46 pm to
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This is a perfect example of “bad facts make bad law.” It would be a bad precedent for Louisiana to be able to extradite doctors from states where abortion is legal to punish them for performing abortions pursuant to their state’s laws on citizens from Louisiana.

However, this case goes above and beyond that. This is allegedly a doctor conspiring across state lines to drug a woman without her knowledge in order to perform an involuntary abortion, aka, a murder.


What changes if the BF took his pregnant GF to CA and the LA resident's murder was performed there?

What changes if the CA "doc:" traveled to LA and sold his death pills there?

If the baby had been born, and the CA "doc" assisted in the murder in LA and then fled to CA; change anything?

If there was a toxic material that AZ allowed and some wafted into CA, CA have a leg to stand on?

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70538 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:24 pm to
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What changes if the BF took his pregnant GF to CA and the LA resident's murder was performed there?


If in CA, she was drugged without her knowledge in order to induce an abortion, that would be a crime under California’s laws. The crime is prosecuted where it occurs.

If they traveled to California to get the abortion, and the woman was consenting to the abortion and fully desiring it, that is not a crime in California. Thus, Louisiana lacks the right to prosecute them for that offense despite it being illegal in Louisiana.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14073 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:25 pm to
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What changes if the BF took his pregnant GF to CA and the LA resident's murder was performed there?


Should be nothing.

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What changes if the CA "doc:" traveled to LA and sold his death pills there?


That violates the LA statute so he is still in trouble.

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If the baby had been born, and the CA "doc" assisted in the murder in LA and then fled to CA; change anything?


This is dumb

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If there was a toxic material that AZ allowed and some wafted into CA, CA have a leg to stand on?


See International Paper Co. v. Ouellette, 479 U.S. 481 (1987)
Posted by ShreveportHog94
GodBlessAmerica
Member since Nov 2006
6115 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:29 pm to
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That violates the LA statute so he is still in trouble


Dumb count tried this over a year ago to a doctor in NY and the courts and that Dr are still laughing at them. Nice try but we will continue to laugh.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14073 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:43 pm to
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Dumb count tried this over a year ago to a doctor in NY and the courts and that Dr are still laughing at them. Nice try but we will continue to laugh.


Grats on winning the battle and ignoring that losing the war is going to lead to these people being in jail a long time. Hope they are prepping for LA summers on the farm, heard Angola is wonderful in July.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14706 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 3:46 pm to
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I can guarantee that no doctor sent abortion pills to a man to end a pregnancy a mother did not want to terminate.


No you can't. But you know this already, don't you?

Problem is, in your depraved tiny little mind, there's nothing wrong with a doctor sending abortion pills to a man to end a pregnancy a mother did not want to terminate.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4709 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:02 pm to
I haven’t seen this aspect discussed. Not sure if it is because it is secondary in terms of grabbing attention or because it’s a non-factor in this case.

Does this doctor have a Louisiana issued license to practice medicine? His CA license has no value here. Professional licenses are issued by states. The guiding principle in jurisdiction is the location of the patient or client receiving services. The laws of that state dictate what is allowed.

If he didn’t have a valid Louisiana medical license then he was practicing medicine illegally in Louisiana. Regardless of the specific statute in play regarding abortifacients. That typically is not an offense that would warrant extradition from another state. Usually the penalties are fines and extra limitations on the event the person pursues Louisiana licensure in the future.

I just find it interesting this hasn’t come up.
Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
2430 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:24 pm to
Well it seems that men only should decide on women's birth rights, so I guess slipping them these is OK.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21890 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:28 pm to
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Well it seems that men only should decide on women's birth rights, so I guess slipping them these is OK.


Wazzup, Sizzurp?

Why do you say it seems only men should decide?

Makes no sense. Most abortions are selected by women, seems to me they are making the "choice".

While there are the cases here and there of drugging, coercion, or force- for the most part, women have no problem being murderers just fine on their own.

Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
2430 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 4:56 pm to
Sup Girl, Happy SB weekend. I got the Seahawks.

"Mostly men" are deciding what is best for women giving birth. Specifically Republicans in gov overwhelmingly white men, and SCOTUS.

Abortion, we could go around all day, we won't.
But, laws and restrictions lead to poor decisions made by both boys and girls involved.

Lagniappe, Yes, I believe that men can't have children, before the loonies get in.



Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21890 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:03 pm to
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"Mostly men" are deciding what is best for women giving birth. Specifically Republicans in gov overwhelmingly white men, and SCOTUS.


There are women voters, women in government and women on the USSC.

To say this is an issue decided by men is simply wrong.

ETA... I don't really watch football, but I hope you have a fun time! Close your eyes come half time, I heard there was gonna be a lusty lagomorph.
This post was edited on 2/6/26 at 5:09 pm
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:13 pm to
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Becasue it puts them in a pickle and destroys their defense of abortion. If a man slipping a pill to his girlfriend that in effect terminates the pregnancy the women should be upset and call it murder.

No not really. Forced to abort & forced to carry to term are the same problem from the “autonomy over your own person” POV.

The poster after you summed it up well.
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This is a perfect example of “bad facts make bad law.” It would be a bad precedent for Louisiana to be able to extradite doctors from states where abortion is legal to punish them for performing abortions pursuant to their state’s laws on citizens from Louisiana. However, this case goes above and beyond that.

This is allegedly a doctor conspiring across state lines to drug a woman without her knowledge in order to perform an involuntary abortion
Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
2430 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:29 pm to
Women voters, like others sometime vote against their interest. Others do too.

Those votes go to elect officials, top is house, senate, potus, sc deciding laws. You know all this

Now, look at Rep house/senate diversity, not much, is it?. It's A Man's World, rip JB.

The women in the SC are overruled by the men as planned. The one right woman on SC is complicit

I will sizzurp at halftime, Hispanic mens in dresses don't phase me anyway. I grew up in NO
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3349 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:31 pm to
You may want to seek help. I think you're past the getting out and touching grass phase.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21890 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:32 pm to
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Women voters, like others sometime vote against their interest. Others do too.


Are you, a man, telling women voter's what "their interest" is?

Come on, dude... you just did the thing you protested a post ago.

Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3349 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:34 pm to
They have no working brain. It's like a snow globe inside their head.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89829 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:37 pm to
It’s a death cult.

Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
2430 posts
Posted on 2/6/26 at 5:45 pm to
Not at all, right to choose and vote for whoever.

MAGA votes against their best interest too.
Im not telling them how to vote either.

Back to, Men deciding what is best for women is the way it currently is and why buddy may have put something in her drink.



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