RedStickFox

I'm not comparing the two based on what they affected. I can't say that "Obama born in Kenya" affected the national scale other than that it was yet another brain broken conspiracy that enraged right wing lunatics accross the country.

My argument is that there is substantial evidence that the trump campaign and associates possibly colluded with the russian government and there is essentially no evidence that Obama was born in Kenya.

Republicans have been hearing Trump say "the Russia hoax" for so long that I doubt any of them have any idea about what was actually investigated or the results of those investigations. They act as though Roger Stone wasn't convicted of lying about communications with Russians. They act as through Flynn wasn't convicted and even fired by Trump himself for lying about communications with Russians. They act as though his son and campaign manager didn't lie about a meeting with the Russians regarding dirt on Hillary. They act as though Trumps campaign manager, who took the job for free, didn't share internal polling data with the Russians.

We can argue to exactly what extent the Trump campaign colluded with Russians, but the idea that it was a big made up hoax is yet another republican dilusion.

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Now let’s do democrats.

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I think you are proving my point. My list was filled with completely ridiculous things that are widely believed by the republican party.

Your list contains numerous things that a single democrat said (like "Trump will round up black people). Nothing on my list is merely "Trump said this stupid thing".

These are wildly different lists. The idea that "Russia collusion" is on the same scale as "Obama born in Kenya" is insane.

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I've seen many claim they can, including a few in here.

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I very much doubt that. I've had numerous republican/conservative types claim that democrats think this. I've yet to find one that can present any evidence of this.

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Seriously, does she not realize she is totally nuts?

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"When you lie with dogs, you get up with fleas."

For decades the Republican party has been running off of conspiracy theories. As soon as anything happens twitter lights up with conspiracy theories.

- Obama born in Kenya
- Obama was gay
- Michelle Obama is a man
- The FBI planned the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping.
- The FBI planned J6.
- The feds planted the J6 pipe bombs.
- Obamacare had "death panels".
- The Clinton kill list.

The republican party are like moths to a flame when it comes to this shite.

If it could be worked out I'd support it.

One thing I commonly see people forget about when discussing social security is disability etc. A portion of the costs of social security are the disabled etc.

It's one of the reasons that people think social security is such a bad return on investment. It's not great of course, but a portion of the money you put in also covers disability insurance.

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Sorry that I need to be reminded. But at this point… what will it take for a big name CIA/FBI/DOJ operative to be exposed and put in prison? Is it even possible for their to be justice?

I’m just afraid the DEMs will demand the same of Trump’s cabinet if given the chance.

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You've been lied to unfortunately. Trump just blames all of his wrong doing on the "deepstate". It's why ever week they just float out new names.

If Trump were actually serious he wouldn't have appointed podcasters to run the FBI and he would have hired actual prosecutors instead of Alaina Hobba and Lindsey Halligan who's only credentials are that they look good in bikinis.

Just go back to the very beginning of all of this. In 2016 the FBI was investigating both Hillary for the email server and the trump campaign for possible ties to Russia. Which investigation was announced publicly and reported on non-stop right up through the election? The one on Hillary. Yet Republicans have deluded themselves in to thinking that the FBI had it out for Trump. It's stupid, but that's what they've told themselves because they live in a make believe world where everyone is out to get them.

Its hilarious that back in trumps first term the big talking pount was "dont pay attention to what he says, pay attention to what he does" cause they knew he's a lying dumb frick, but now they just pretend that the media was taking him out of context.

Gait analysis would not fix anything. Nutjobs are nutjobs. Did any republican lunatics stop claiming Obama ws born in Kenya when he released his birth certificate? Of course not.

Maybe we could get that dumb frick from the blaze to do some more gait analysis on the guy. That would prove it!

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Whats strange is that a Grand Jury previously agreed to indict, but now... they say no.

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They barely agreed to indict when presented evidence from an insurance lawyer with no experience with prosecuting people or with grand juries and Noone to assist her. She likely broke tons of rules like she did on the comey grand jury indictment.

These might be experienced lawyers who aren't willing to lie and violate people's rights for trump.