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Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:22 pm to mtntiger
As a conservative, I am glad McCarthy is gone. Time for a change.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:22 pm to SDVTiger
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Gaetz stuck it to the Rontards and the never trumpers thats for sure
100%
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:26 pm to JoeHackett
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I keep seeing in these threads how horribly outclassed and angry the RINOs are. I actually believe that's probably true. That doesn't seem like unity to me. Plus it took almost a month to elect a Speaker. And Kevin McCarthy eventually got 219 votes I believe.
You’re confusing unity of thought with unity of vote. Democrats do not have unity of thought either. But they tow the party line 100% and have unity of vote.
Taking a long time to elect a speaker isn’t a new thing, or a bad thing. Some would argue it’s what the founding fathers intended. We had a 133 vote record set in the 1850’s.
Finally, Democrats don’t have to deal with DINO’s. Unfortunately; it was time to deal with their Republican counterparts. Enough votes coalesced around Johnson that the RINO contingent saw it was a loosing battle. So, for whatever reason, belief or fear. The end result was unity of vote. Good enough for me.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:29 pm to Riverside
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No, some like yourself are just miserable people.
Because I don't think the entire Republican caucus is 100% behind Mike Johnson? Because I think that Democrats could exploit some bad blood?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:31 pm to mtntiger
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Gaetz and company really stuck it to the Dems, who went along with ousting McCarthy thinking they could sit Hakeem the Bad Dream in the Speaker's chair.
They never thought they would get Jeffries as Speaker. No Democrat ever suggested this. I’m positive they are happy for the three week dumpster fire the GOP lit.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:32 pm to dstone12
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This post was edited on 10/25/23 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:33 pm to Deplorableinohio
Shut up bitch
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:34 pm to Dandy Chiggins
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You’re confusing unity of thought with unity of vote.
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The end result was unity of vote.
For Speaker of the House.
I'm responding to the idea that Mike Johnson is the leader that will finally take Republicans to the light. That all members of the House will coalesce around him and finally fight Democrats.
There's no way that's happening. Republicans will peel off immediately to work with Democrats to send billions to Ukraine. To pass another bull shite CR. To fund Planned Parenthood. To ignore the border etc...
In other words, nothing has really changed. Only now Mike Johnson will be the face of this and I guess MAGA will own his compromises or turn on him.
This isn't a win, it's an end to some drama. The beginning of new drama.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:36 pm to JoeHackett
Here’s what changes. Single issue appropriations bills. That’s fine if folks want to vote with their heads. Makes it easier to primary as well.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:39 pm to loogaroo
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100%
Why would you think a conservative DeSantis supporter would be upset by this speaker? I never wanted McCarthy to begin with.
Y'all are freaking weird.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:42 pm to JoeHackett
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This isn't a win, it's an end to some drama. The beginning of new drama.
I don’t know and will give Johnson some latitude, especially based upon his introduction.
Given McCarthy’s evolution from the do nothing Ryan/Cantor tree, his ultimate failure was not hard to forecast. He clearly had to go as he was never going to do anything of substance - by design.
The “enemy” is the other side and not internal. People like Jeffries, after admitting he hardly knows Johnson, already came out and called Johnson a “right wing MAGA extremist.” He is a leftist/progressive - that’s the opposition.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:46 pm to SDVTiger
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Gaetz stuck it to the Rontards and the never trumpers thats for sure
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:47 pm to roadGator
He got at least 217 votes, didn't he?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:48 pm to Deplorableinohio
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No, the dems are rejoicing
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:48 pm to weptiger
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already came out and called Johnson a “right wing MAGA extremist.” He is a leftist/progressive - that’s the opposition.
Talking about a worthless waste of a human being, Jeffries that is. That’s the extent of his playbook……muh “right wing MAGA extremists.” Limited vocabulary bank is what I’d guess.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:50 pm to mtntiger
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Gaetz and company really stuck it to the Dems, who went along with ousting McCarthy thinking they could sit Hakeem the Bad Dream in the Speaker's chair.
No they didn’t. I imagine what they wanted was Jim Jordan, but anyone more right wing than MaCarthy was a win for them. They want to shove Republicans to the right where they think they can beat them. It worked quite well in the last mid-terms as the Dems spent a lot of money funding MAGA candidates over more centrists. When the Magas won the nomination the Democrats were able to easily rout them in the general.
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:53 pm to JoeHackett
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exploit some bad blood?
I think the only bad blood there is is between Kevin McCarthy and the party he tried to screw to regain the Speakership!! I think once that was exposed the rest of the party could see the writing on the wall!! I think once Gaetz told Emmer what McCarthy did to Scalise and Jordan, Emmer wanted to see for himself. And after that, it was “Katy bar the door”!! Watch the Gaetz interview with Bannon. Very eye opening!!
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:55 pm to roadGator
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Where is the evidence of this?
The vote assh*t. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
Posted on 10/25/23 at 7:58 pm to Adajax
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a bloodbath behind the scenes.
Bloodbath is probably not accurate.
There is some bad blood for sure. Hopefully they can put that aside and not let the commies have their way.
I’m hopeful.
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