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No borders, no walls, no laws, no private property

Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57843 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:33 pm
What's the end game for progressives that hold these views? What's the endgame and what do they think would be accomplished if
they had their way?
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3253 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:39 pm to
I mean, if the socialist were part of some fringe group of the democratic party, I could possibly understand...

What I do not understand is that how can they be the majority view and have support from upper income families????

I guess it's because they are so "educated".
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:48 pm to
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What's the end game for progressives that hold these views? What's the endgame and what do they think would be accomplished if
they had their way?


They want to centralize all power to a federal government. States no longer have states rights, all fall within the governments purview. They want elimination of the 2nd amendment so the people can not resist. Churches are to be torn down, as there can be no higher power than fed gov.
They want to produce goods by means of a socialist collective. Farms and manufacturing will be relegated to certain areas around the country. People in those areas will be assigned jobs. Food production will be made on collective farms.
Major cities and capitals will be the showcase for this "new" government. But venturing outside these major cities you will see a wasteland of starvation, poverty, and death.
The politicians who control government will live extravagantly and each will have their own dachas in D.C. Meanwhile the rest of Americans live in squalor. The armed forces will largely be used to subdue the population from rising up and disrupting the nobel work by the Committee members.

If you want some real proof, just look at Communist Russia. That's what the left wants. I doubt you find many regressives deny that. Sure they'll say that "We don't want to be like the USSR" and in the same breath they'll speak of how the USSR just didn't do it right.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90506 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 2:14 pm to
Legit lol’d
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57843 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 2:37 pm to
I get all that Bug, and I can understand why the ultra rich and those in places of power would want all this. What I can't understand is why the progressive living in his mom's basement thinks he'd benefit from it.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52765 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:22 pm to
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What I can't understand is why the progressive living in his mom's basement thinks he'd benefit from it.



When government controls your life, you no longer have to. You and I don't think that way. We are self reliant and accept personal responsibility for our lives and our actions. The leftist wants to perpetually be a child, and have government control everything so they don't have to make choices. It's part of the reason why kids usually grow out of that stage in life, unless you are a "progressive".
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27369 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

What's the end game for progressives that hold these views? What's the endgame and what do they think would be accomplished if
they had their way?


A John Lennon song?
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14977 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:27 pm to
I can't completely answer the question but confiscating property just like South Africa is one of their goals. They will probably raid 401k's and retirement accounts also.
If we don't stop them that is.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118683 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:34 pm to
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No borders


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no walls


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no laws


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no private property


Wait, don't you need laws to make sure their is no private property?

Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 3:36 pm to
Oh...the dem elites want socialism for us, but they want nothing to do it themselves.

Socialism kills social mobility, so the families at the top would likely always remain there unchanged.

Kind of like the oligarchs.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:12 pm to
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what do they think would be accomplished if

They don't think. They can't, they're robots.
Sad.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48272 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:27 pm to
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They want to centralize all power to a federal government.


Which would in turn be completely ruled by a World Government. All traditional notions of national sovereignty are to be abolished as we move away from the Age of the Nation-States into a New Age.

The Age of the Nation-States began in 1648 and the powers-that-be now are determined to bring that Age to an end.

We are witnessing History unfold before our very eyes.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 4:28 pm
Posted by 70806
Member since Nov 2018
86 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:29 pm to
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What's the end game for progressives that hold these views?

Excellent question.

But can you give me one example of an American politician who holds such views?

Or are you just making up shite?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72872 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:02 pm to
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What's the end game for progressives that hold these views?


Just envision a scene from the Mad Max movies. The masses thinning out the herd in a dog eat dog slugfest. A third world nightmare.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57843 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:04 pm to
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Wait, don't you need laws to make sure their is no private property?


No. Just a disarmed populace and a government that is.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:10 pm to
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What's the end game for progressives that hold these views?


They don’t know. It’s honestly like a police officer saying he wishes no one ever broke the law. There is no job security in that. Same holds true for progressives.

My end game is two OT 10 AI sexbots who can also run a mini farm. Just have to keep fighting the good fight until then.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
6065 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:11 pm to
American Socialist don’t think it through to the point of “endgame”.

Socialism is born out of envy, jealousy and self righteousness. It’s not based on logic or rationale. Socialism as a political ideology is effective in America because of the guilt generated by unequal outcomes. Equal opportunity be damned and couple this with the absolute asinine belief that resources are infinite and presto!
You have socialist.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7943 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:19 pm to
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But can you give me one example of an American politician who holds such views?

Or are you just making up shite?


What are you talking about? The word politician is no where in the OP.

Do you lack reading comprehension skills or are YOU just making shite up?
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3057 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:07 pm to
Then I'll certainly be packing.
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