re: Nissan may be on the verge of bankruptcy- Is this a harbinger of what's coming to America

I wonder what GeoCorp will save them?

Oddly enough, GM, Subaru, Honda, and Toyota are doing okay in this market. Meaning that they are earning something and are keeping the lights on, trimming some fat where it exists. They aren’t making cash hand over fist but they are okay.

Stellantis and Nissan are hemorrhaging cash. Not sure if Nissan survives without a major restructuring. And IMO Stellantis needs to sell Jeep, Ram, and Chrysler if they can’t manage them properly. Both of these companies are trimming a lot more than just the fat….they are laying off entire teams and severely limiting their ability to respond to market trends in the future.

Jaguar is gone and won’t be back as a real luxury player. Looks like they don’t even want to come back.

Mitsubishi is still not making it work in the US. They make the cheapest cars available in many markets. They should be more popular.

Hyundai/Kia/Genesis are surviving. They are paying the bills by selling cars to people that used to buy Nissans.

Ford is struggling but they’ll make it on trucks.

Tesla is seeing some headwinds but they’ve already cut a lot of costs and have a bright future unless credit markets freeze.

Mazda is kicking arse but they also have no cash. If we go into a recession they are going to struggle.

IDK about the higher end Germans. I know Mercedes is trimming model lines especially coupes and convertibles.

This sucks because this will take Infiniti with it and their vehicles are great.

Unfortunately, they are abandoning sedans snd going all SUV. No Q50s after 25 model year.

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240 for me though please.

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Buddy of mine had a 240 - probably mid 70s if I had to guess. He drove it every day to work probably 50 miles round trip. Did that for 30 years, maybe? Had 200,000+ miles when he parked it. Let his teenage son drive it and he wrecked it within weeks. He cried!

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F150- 150 day supply Silverado- 100 days Sierra- 110 days

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That’s higher than I thought, but generally full sized trucks are stocked at higher levels of inventory.

Still….150 days worth of F-150s….yikes.

Pickups are not luxury vehicles but they are priced like them. The people who buy them are price sensitive. Configuring them over $55,000 right now is actually quite easy. What this tells me is that GM is doing a better job building the trim levels that people want than Ford is at the moment. But there is clearly trouble brewing.

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Not long ago, there were about 270 days of ram truck inventory just sitting.

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Over a year’s worth of Grand Wagoneers.

That’s mind blowing. They could literally stop building them now and the dealers would have inventory for a year at the rate people buy them.

I bet cancelling the HEMI was another contributing factor too.

Current Pathfinder is better. Their 2013-2021 design was terrible

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280z was boss

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I had a 240 and 260Zippy. I traded the 260 for a pearl white Toyota Cressida when the family started. I've been loyal to Toyota/Lexus since.

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If Nissan goes I assume Infinity goes. In July Nissan had 76 days of inventory. Infinity had 66. Toyota for comparison, was at 29. Buick was at 80 so Nissan is just better than Buick.

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When it was real bad Mercedes was at +100. Toyota was the best and dodge the worst at like 137 or something.

Car dealers were straight up assholes during COVID with their jacking up prices. I have had 5 Infinitis over the years and my lease was up in August but because of various customer service issues, I did not get another. During COVID, my wife wanted the Infiniti medium sized SUV and they took over a year and could not get one.

So she decides to get a Nissan Pathfinder and agrees on a price in writing and I go in later that day to sign the paperwork and they try to raise the price 5K over sticker. Needless to say it was not a pleasant conversation. frick Nissan and I was a loyal customer for 30 years between Nissan and Infiniti.