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Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:13 pm to teke184
quote:My experience in federal court is that you get whatever Magistrate the clerk sends you to see when you walk in the door with a request.
Having someone with little to no tangential involvement with Trump or accusations against him would probably have been a better choice.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:13 pm to AggieHank86
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What relevance? Why would a relationship with Epstein disqualify the Magistrate from this case? From any case other than an Epstein case?
In normal times and with a normal magistrate, maybe it would have no relevance. But you can’t tell us that you don’t see the obvious/willful political intent of things DOJ in 2022 … right?
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:15 pm to 850SaintsGator
Because it would have drawn a crowd while the agents were there. No doubt the crowd would have included at least paid agitators if not worse elements.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:15 pm to 850SaintsGator
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But regardless- I’m not asking those questions to mock Trump…I’m curious why he didn’t jump wayyyy in front of this - he waited until the end- why
You won't volunteer your speculation apparently, but I will mine.
Look how people started showing up outside the place as soon as it was announced. Perhaps - just maybe - he actually didn't want that kind of shitshow when it was happening.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:15 pm to David_DJS
quote:I can tell you that you don't seem to know much about how requests for ex parte orders are handled in federal court.
But you can’t tell us that you don’t see the obvious/willful political intent of things DOJ in 2022 … right?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:16 pm to AggieHank86
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My experience in federal court is that you get whatever Magistrate the clerk sends you to see when you walk in the door with a request
Honest question - do you think that’s how a warrant to raid a US president’s personal residence would be handled by DOJ?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:17 pm to jatilen
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Both senior government officials say the raid was scheduled with no political motive, the FBI solely intent on recovering highly classified documents that were illegally removed from the White House.

Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:18 pm to AggieHank86
If they had an informant and knew where the docs were, why did it take 9 hours? Why did they need to go through Melanias closet?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:18 pm to David_DJS
quote:Can't say I've ever requested anything like that.
do you think that’s how a warrant to raid a US president’s personal residence would be handled by DOJ?
But my experience is that court staff generally don't give a damn how important you think you or your client might be. They follow their procedures like automatons.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:19 pm to jatilen
January 21, 2025, Grady Judd is named new FBI Director with orders to bring the heat. Firings, loss of retirements, prosecutions
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:20 pm to AggieHank86
Why open the safe ? If they knew, why was it empty?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:20 pm to AggieHank86
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My experience in federal court is that you get whatever Magistrate the clerk sends you to see when you walk in the door with a request.
True, but you usually know who the order signing magistrate is that day. Absolutely zero chance they didn’t know which magistrate they would get.
That being said I am amazed nobody else caught the most important piece. According to the government official in the Newsweek piece, the warrant was obtained based upon false information. How isn’t that a huge deal?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to Eighteen
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If they had an informant and knew where the docs were, why did it take 9 hours? Why did they need to go through Melanias closet?
Were they only looking for specific docs or was it anything classified that shouldn't have been there? They got 15 boxes a few months ago which contained some degree of classified documents, now they've been informed there is more there so they probably went there to search through everything.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to AggieHank86
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I can tell you that you don't seem to know much about how requests for ex parte orders are handled in federal court.
And I can tell you I don’t give a frick about that. I don’t pretend to be a lawyer. But I have a brain as big as yours, am rational, have my eyes/ears open, and it doesn’t take being a lawyer to see full well what’s going on anymore than it takes an economist to see inflation abound.
Are you seriously going to argue that DOJ applies justice with a blind eye? Liberals have been subject to the exact same treatment conservatives have the last several years?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to Eighteen
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If they had an informant and knew where the docs were, why did it take 9 hours? Why did they need to go through Melanias closet?
the warrant gives them access to the entire residence.
They can claim it's in the safe then look through whatever else they care to. ie-Fishing
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to jatilen
How did this source know specific documents were in a specific place... the safe?
Apparently their source was wrong because the safe was empty ..so they decided to look around?
Apparently their source was wrong because the safe was empty ..so they decided to look around?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to BBONDS25
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So the information used to obtain the warrant is admittedly false?
Furthermore, if the informant was credible then why did the judge permit the FBI to search all of the house?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to doubleb
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he affidavit to obtain the search warrant, the intelligence source says, contained abundant and persuasive detail that Trump continued to possess the relevant records in violation of federal law, and that investigators had sufficient information to prove that those records were located at Mar-a-Lago—including the detail that they were contained in a specific safe in a specific room.
Let’s play this out to a logical conclusion. First, exactly how many people do you think have access to Trumps personal safe? I’d put the number at maybe 5 likely less. More than likely those people would be Trump and his children and you know they didn’t call. So that leaves someone without access to the safe claiming they know what’s in the safe they didn’t have access too. Furthermore, if the informant did have access to the safe they could have provided the access code negating the need for the FBI to crack into it.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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They got 15 boxes a few months ago which contained some degree of classified documents, now they've been informed there is more there so they probably went there to search through everything.
How convenient and what a cop out answer for this insane abuse of power

this is banana republic level shite, and Liberals used to screech at the top of their lungs when the “police state” did searches like this on citizens (stop and frisk, fishing expedition traffic stops, etc.)
how the turn tables
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 3:24 pm
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