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re: New York Times: Could 'adversity scores' replace affirmative action nationwide?

Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21327 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:28 am to
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Overcoming adversity is nice and all but we are assigning some weird aspect of nobility to poverty that we really shouldn’t.


I agree with you. Achievement and ability are the most important factors in a meritocracy.

The issue of those who “faced adversity” is a real thing, but trying to correct the scales of nature or of society is a land mine of negative unintended consequences.

The decision to grant waivers to special cases of adversity must not be institutionalized.
This post was edited on 7/6/23 at 9:29 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109506 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:32 am to
Overcoming adversity is, by and large, the only way to accomplish anything.

If it’s overcome FOR YOU, then…
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:46 am to
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New York Times: Could 'adversity scores' replace affirmative action nationwide?


Racism by any other name is still racism.

This is no different than those who try to redefine "gender" to say it has nothing to do with anatomical sex, they do this in order to try to create a rhetorical platform as they know they have none otherwise. Once such a scheme fell into being just a renamed "affirmative action", SCOTUS would (or, at least, should) shoot that down even more strongly.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:52 am to
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If they truly want fairness, all indicators of race would be removed from the application. The top applicants are accepted and everyone is surprised as to the diversity or lack thereof at orientation

Hopefully there are schools that come out and say this will be their approach. Invest in the best of the best faculty that want out of the craziness and just want to get back to teaching. They will get the best that the woke schools don't want, and eventually they will be more prestigious. People will seek these doctors, etc just by school reputation is known as non-woke.

The parallel economy could work if we had enough people in charge of things to make these moves.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294775 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:56 am to
Ahh the communists finally get to use intersectionality for something
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:11 am to
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To build a diverse class of students, the medical school at UC Davis ranks applicants by the disadvantages they have faced.


So they should have classes full of rural southerners with good grades? You know.. since they call the southern people stupid and backward.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53553 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:14 am to
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but we are assigning some weird aspect of nobility to poverty that we really shouldn’t.


They say it’s easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven

And they also say the meek shall inherit the earth
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100224 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:14 am to
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The disadvantage scale helped turn UC Davis into one of the most diverse medical schools in the U.S.


Notice they didn’t say one of the best medical schools…
Posted by caliegeaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:19 am to
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If they truly want fairness, all indicators of race would be removed from the application. The top applicants are accepted and everyone is surprised as to the diversity or lack thereof at orientation


reeeeeelly sly there.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116661 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:39 am to
It's not new. The old name was 'Striving'. Striving was ruled as racial quotas. There is no difference with adversity except the name.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:58 am to
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This may not work like they think it will. The racist progressive mindset just assumes that all blacks have experienced “adversity”. Will the rich black elites be okay with their mediocre children not getting into Ivy League schools? The next Vietnamese child of a Louisiana fisherman who has a 36 on her ACT better not get rejected by Harvard in lieu of Ketanji Brown Jackson’s daughter who lived in Georgetown, went to Exeter and got a 30 on her ACT.
conservatives are morons.

The goal is to hurt white people. This will work exactly how they think it will.
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
8500 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:40 pm to
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orientation
reeeeeelly sly there.


LOL
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79795 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:55 pm to

So a white kid who lived in a black part of town and got beat up often would get a high adversity score?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17781 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:26 pm to
I am sure UC Davis has put out some top affirmative action docs....


...that I would not let work on my dog, much less, myself.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19788 posts
Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:33 pm to
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I know when I need a doctor my first thought is I want a diverse one not a well qualified, professional, competent one.


Sorry (well not really) but all my Docs will be white males going forward. If they are 40 or younger you know they had to work twice as hard as anyone else to even get in to medical school.
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