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New York Times complains about Amazon's fast/free shipping.

Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28035 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:56 pm
NYT's article

Basically complaining that Amazon is pushing their contracted drivers into accidents with their expectations of delivering packages on time.

"An investigation by ProPublica identified more than 60 accidents since June 2015 involving Amazon delivery contractors that resulted in serious injuries, including 10 deaths."

How many deaths are attributed to illegal aliens since June 2015, and when are we going to see articles about that?
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:58 pm to
They should be more concerned that none of those shipments are originating in New York.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:01 pm to
Or the Middle East cab drivers....
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37405 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

"An investigation by ProPublica identified more than 60 accidents since June 2015 involving Amazon delivery contractors that resulted in serious injuries, including 10 deaths."


That doesn't seem like that much considering how much driving and how many deliveries are done, and the high traffic/big city areas these deliveries are in.

In typical journalism fashion, they dont provide any context (i.e. how many wrecks/deaths from USPS, FedEx, USPS in this time frame? if any of those delivery drivers wreck and kill someone, how are they set up insurance wise? etc.)

yawn
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63313 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:02 pm to
We need common sense delivery laws!!
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19567 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:03 pm to
When I saw an Amazon delivery van that had crashed into the brick wall of a luxury apartment complex in Memphis, I knew those guys are serious about getting stuff delivered.
Posted by TheLSUriot
Clear Lake, TX
Member since Oct 2007
1578 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:19 pm to
Here is a CSB! I saw one of those Amazon delivery vans in a wreck on Monday. The van wasn't in bad shape but the other vehicle had flipped and ended up on it's side. Was curious how big the payout is going to be.

Funny what they decide it worth reporting and what isn't???
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17850 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:21 pm to
quote:


Basically complaining that Amazon is pushing their contracted drivers into accidents with their expectations of delivering packages on time.




Drivers have had electronic logs for a few years now. There literally is no way to push a driver harder than the law allows.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49898 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

"An investigation by ProPublica identified more than 60 accidents since June 2015 involving Amazon delivery contractors that resulted in serious injuries, including 10 deaths."


1) This doesn't even make sense, because an Amazon delivery is not the same as, say, a pizza delivery. While a customer might like getting his pizza in 30 minutes or so, a "quick" Amazon shipment is judged by the DAY it arrives. Not by how many minutes it takes.

2) "IF" there is a problem with Amazon drivers getting into a higher-than-average number of accidents, that tells me that these drivers are either 1) getting paid per delivery, or 2) simply want to get their deliveries over as quickly as possible so they can go home.

3) Here's hoping that this negative article by the NYT means that there is in-fighting between them an Jeff Bezos's Washington Post.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117564 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:56 pm to
I don't do Amazon but my wife is addicted to it. She got me some shoes that didn't fit. She told me to take it to UPS and they'll take care it.
I walked into the UPS store and said "I want to return these shoes."
Them: 'OK...done. Have a nice day.'
Me: 'That's it?'
Them: 'Yes sir, your confirmation is in your email right now.'

The entire transaction took 20 seconds. I was impressed.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20515 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 1:57 pm to
However they won't refund your Amazon card, they'll give you an electronic gift card to use instead.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117564 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

However they won't refund your Amazon card, they'll give you an electronic gift card to use instead.


We don't have an Amazon card. They just took the charge off my Visa card.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49898 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

I don't do Amazon


As a matter of principle I shouldn't either, but I make an exception because it's just so damn convenient. I mainly just get supplements, though, and a couple other things.


PS - Which reminds me. I forgot to order my "I stand with Hong Kong" t-shirt.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93288 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

New York Times complains about Amazon's fast/free shipping

Gentrification of shipping
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3601 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 4:24 pm to
anytime my order is delivered by USPS it will show as delivered a day before it shows up
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15073 posts
Posted on 9/5/19 at 6:01 pm to
/thread


Oh plus they mad at Amazon owns their competition the Washington Post
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