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re: Nevada ... another state Trump can't win & DeSantis can - POLL

Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:40 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21979 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:40 am to
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That is the key imho. He did so by cleaning up some sketchy voting. Voting is a states rights issue.


No, that happened by him having large coattails, presenting a positive conservative agenda and term limits. Cleaning up voting in a couple of metro areas is going to impact presidential races a lot more than house races, especially in off years. Nobody’s putting together a huge harvesting operation for a rep or senator.

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A Florida legislature with a Supermajority is not the same as battling the DC swamp. To argue otherwise is moronic.


Attacking a straw man is moronic. Nobody has claimed that Florida is equal to DC, but it is an analog. Being skilled in navigating the political waters and building a coalition is a skill that can be applied in any political arena. It’s a skill that Trump doesn’t have.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73117 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:44 am to
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No - he didn’t.


Yes, he did.

"Trump is a shitty leader" doesn't change that.

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Florida is not DC.


Thanks DeSantis.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11009 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:44 am to
Beware of polling. They don’t survey/weight younger voters enough, where Trump (within the GOP) is trouncing RD.

But the main thing that bothers me about political polls is the party weighting they often do, and found in the fine print of many polling methodologies. Trump won in 2016 by converting blue collar dems in Midwest swing states. Biden won in 2020 by cleaning up in suburbia and women… many of whom identify as small “c” conservatives.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:46 am to
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Being skilled in navigating the political waters and building a coalition is a skill that can be applied in any political arena


Thinking that this is likely in DC in this day and age is naive.

Carry on in dreamland amigo.

DC will have to go through a radical transformation. The typical political process is ineffectual, even for someone as skilled as DeSantis.

A Scorched Earth political policy is the only legitimate means of change.

I trust Trump in that arena far more than I trust DeSantis.

I trust DeSantis to “rebuild” the DC political infrastructure far more than I do Trump.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:48 am to
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Florida is not DC.


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Thanks DeSantis.


So you are equating the two?

Carry on.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73117 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:49 am to
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So you are equating the two?


Nope.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:49 am to
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Attacking a straw man is moronic. Nobody has claimed that Florida is equal to DC


Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5068 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:49 am to
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JFC. The dude has been busted lying repeatedly, and he's the best you have?

He has style and I like his style. You could learn something from him because your style sucks.


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73117 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:50 am to
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I like his style.


I'm shocked.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5064 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:51 am to
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A Scorched Earth political policy is the only legitimate means of change.


Trump is not the guy. We have 2017-2020 as proof.

Trump likes government. His solution for most issues...more government.

This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 7:53 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21979 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:06 am to
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A Scorched Earth political policy is the only legitimate means of change.


A lame duck that got teabagged for 4 years and had to get permission from Mitch for his appointments isn’t scorching jack shite even if he could get elected, which is unlikely.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:50 am to
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Trump is not the guy.


Is not supported by:

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We have 2017-2020 as proof.


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Trump likes government. His solution for most issues...more government.


Your Credibility…lost.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:53 am to
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A lame duck that got teabagged for 4 years and had to get permission from Mitch for his appointments isn’t scorching jack shite


Politically, no.

But I have laid out the only realistically feasible option in the past. His role for going scorched Earth would be as CiC, not President per se.

I don’t believe Ron would go that route.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5064 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:59 am to
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Your Credibility…lost.



There are these things called facts. Seems like you have problems with facts.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 9:01 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:02 am to
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There are these things called facts. Seems like you have problems with facts.




You stated an OPINION, not a fact…moron.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53515 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:07 am to
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ttacking a straw man is moronic. Nobody has claimed that Florida is equal to DC


They do claim that. Their argument has been that Trump signed EOs because congress would not work with him and Biden reversed those.

They stated many times that DeSantis will get it done right. That asserts that congress will be exactly like the FL legislature because they will give him what he wants.


They know this.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32114 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:08 am to
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Nevada would rather have Biden over Trump? Are Americans really this stupid? Maybe Americans get exactly what they deserve




Just remember this when you vote for losin don in the primary and he loses to newsom or even worse Biden yet again.


You get what you deserve
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:10 am to
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Just remember this when you vote for losin ron in the primary and he loses to newsom or even worse Biden yet again.

You get what you deserve


FIFY

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53515 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:12 am to
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There are these things called facts. Seems like you have problems with facts.





They are facts. Just in one sentence, you can be proven wrong.

Most regulations removed by a president ever.

Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12990 posts
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:12 am to
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LOL. Nevada would rather have Biden over Trump? Are Americans really this stupid? Maybe Americans get exactly what they deserve


The stupidity starts with voting for the guy that would lose to Biden
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