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"Net Neutrality" supporters want sites banned

Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:07 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:07 am
The sham that is net neutrality gives the government powerful oversight over the internet.

Supporters like this. It is crazy. Nothing can be more further from "neutral" than government controlled internet.

Protesters supporting net neutrality yesterday protested demanding the FCC use the power Obama's FCC grabbed under the guise of net neutrality to ban such sites as Drudge and Info Wars.

LINK

We need to end this net neutrality foolishness and we need to prohibit local governments from regulating the establishment of ISPs in their cities and states.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:08 am to
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Nothing can be more further from "neutral" than government controlled internet.

See Patriot Act
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:08 am to
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we need to prohibit local governments from regulating the establishment of ISPs in their cities and states.


How do you propose doing this?
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24848 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:08 am to
Control, control, control.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:10 am to
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we need to prohibit local governments from regulating the establishment of ISPs in their cities and states.


How do you propose doing this?


simply declare that it is a violation of the commerce clause of the Constitution for state and local governments to interfere with the transmission of interstate data.

They can't regulate radio stations or tv stations now for example.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:12 am to
Net Neutrality is such a messy topic. Both sides have done well to obfuscate what it all really means.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51725 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:12 am to
One has nothing to do with the other. The regulation of ISPs under the government's Net Neutrality is intended for the singular purpose to preserve the unfettered EQUAL access of every entity, whether a university, a movie server, a news service or a coffee shop. If not, the internet content providers will face slowed down speeds or faster speeds, based upon what the ISP's ransom demands are.

I will never agree with you on your point.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25197 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:12 am to
Lol. Net neutrality has nothing to do with censorship. It's about treating all internet data as equal. Ending net neutrality would make censorship by isp's easier than with net neutrality. These protestors are morons that don't understand an issue. If this were conservatives protesting to ban liberal sites, you would call it a false flag staged by Soros
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 10:14 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:17 am to
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Lol. Net neutrality has nothing to do with censorship.


says who??? When the FCC gave themselves power to regulate the internet as a utility inherent in that was the right of censorship.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
4752 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:18 am to
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The sham that is net neutrality gives the government powerful oversight over the internet.

Supporters like this. It is crazy. Nothing can be more further from "neutral" than government controlled internet.

Protesters supporting net neutrality yesterday protested demanding the FCC use the power Obama's FCC grabbed under the guise of net neutrality to ban such sites as Drudge and Info Wars.

LINK

We need to end this net neutrality foolishness and we need to prohibit local governments from regulating the establishment of ISPs in their cities and states.


Wow. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:21 am to
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The regulation of ISPs under the government's Net Neutrality is intended for the singular purpose to preserve the unfettered EQUAL access of every entity, whether a university, a movie server, a news service or a coffee shop. If not, the internet content providers will face slowed down speeds or faster speeds, based upon what the ISP's ransom demands are.


Says you. That is not the reality. That is what you want it to be but they took the power to regulate it as a utility and can do with it just as they do and used to do with TV.

Nevertheless the solution to throttling is ISP competition NOT federal government bureaucrats picking ISP winners and losers.

It is the local governments that limit ISP providers. Arcane state and local regulations, crazy licensing deals, limits imposed on utility companies any PSCs ect.

If you have a half dozen choices of ISPs you are going to pick the one that gives you the speed and pipeline you want. Asking the government to decide what that pipeline should be is absolutely idiotic.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 10:23 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:23 am to
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They can't regulate radio stations or tv stations now for example


Do you wanna know why the states can't regulate these? It begins with an F and ends with a CC.

The negative Commerce Clause actually only has any power when the federal government regulates an area. So what you are actually suggesting is that the FCC take on even broader federal regulation of ISPs down to local infrastructure.

That sounds like Big Government to me.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33050 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:24 am to
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Nevertheless the solution to throttling is ISP competition
in a system where the big players refuse to compete with each other?
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17194 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:26 am to
No moron, a few people who support net neutrality ALSO came out for this.

Net neutrality is about freedome not oppression.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:28 am to
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Wow. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.


Excellent retort as you wrap yourself in the demand of "don't thread on me".

I will put you on the list of hypocrites that advocate for less government until the government does they think will benefit them then big government is ok.

You net neutrality boys are crazy to want the government to dictate pipeline speeds or content or anything else. Open the door to bureaucrats and you will have what we have experienced every time we have given bureaucrats control of over industries.

We would have had wide spread cell phone use nation wide 20 years before we did if not for the FCC and other government agencies. Most of the time the bureaucrats are heeding the calls to limit competition not expand it.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:29 am to
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No moron,
quote:

Net neutrality is about government regulation.


FIFY
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:30 am to
Net Neutrality is what we thought it was. All you had to do is look at who was pushing it to know it was a bad idea.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:30 am to
So less then a half dozen idiots that don't really grasp what net neutrality does, is a story? And was enough to persuade you we need to allow monopolistic ISP's the ability to control, extort, throttle, and block or show preferential treatment toward internet content?

Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:31 am to
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Net Neutrality is what we thought it was. All you had to do is look at who was pushing it to know it was a bad idea.


Jesus you people are fricking lemmings.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28529 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 10:31 am to
Net neutrality is not a "liberal" issue. It is very plainly an issue which allows everyone, liberal, conservative, whatever, the right to access what they want to access.
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