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re: "Net Neutrality" supporters want sites banned

Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:30 am to
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:30 am to
A local monopoly caused lack of demand is ok. In that event of demand increases then it becomes worthwhile for another ISP to move in.

The problem is local monopolies caused by government policies that supply and demand can't overcome.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65670 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:30 am to
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The bigger issue rather than a singular monopoly in Telecom is a de facto cartel.


This is true, but net neutrality won't solve this.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:30 am to
With no NN and ISPs controlling traffic with fast lanes and perfered sites it makes censoring easier.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65670 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:31 am to
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The problem is local monopolies caused by government policies that supply and demand can't overcome.


In many areas, these government contracted monopolies are the only reason internet access exists in those areas. NN would only create problems for those areas.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25198 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:32 am to
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With no NN and ISPs controlling traffic with fast lanes and perfered sites it makes censoring easier.


Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65670 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:32 am to
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With no NN and ISPs controlling traffic with fast lanes and perfered sites it makes censoring easier.





The irony of advocating for FCC control of internet access and using censorship as an argument for it.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:32 am to
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Net Neutrality is what we thought it was. All you had to do is look at who was pushing it to know it was a bad idea.


I guess you enjoy substandard internet
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:32 am to
It isn't a particularly outlandish world to imagine Comcast doing some censoring.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:37 am to
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The irony of advocating for FCC control of internet access and using censorship as an argument for it.


You clearly don't understand the concept of treating all traffic the same

Then again multiple posters have tried to explain a lot of NN topics to you and you never understand.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25198 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:38 am to
Funny you mention Comcast. Here's a good explanation of net neutrality...

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65670 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:41 am to
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Then again multiple posters have tried to explain a lot of NN topics to you and you never understand.



See that's the problem here. I audit local governments for a living. You guys are completely out of your depth discussing this issue and its affects on local municipalities with me, yet insist I'm the moron when I explain to you the reality of what you're saying.

ETA: It's one thing to have a law against throttling internet speeds to certain websites, but that's not what I've been trying to discuss. I'm specifically talking about removing the ability for local municipalities to attract providers to their areas by removing the monopoly contracts posters here seem to believe are the most evil thing imaginable.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 11:44 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:43 am to
The government isn't going to regulate packets

It's to ensure ISPs don't prioritize them.

How can you not grasp this?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65670 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 11:48 am to
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The government isn't going to regulate packets

It's to ensure ISPs don't prioritize them.

How can you not grasp this?


This is a completely different discussion than the one I've been responding to. I have no issues removing throttling. I have issues with the other things being advocated along with that.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 2:59 pm to
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There's nothing to prevent them from secretly colluding, and making it an industry Norm.


I think that's already law, is it not?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:01 pm to
Yeah that was covered a bit back.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5685 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:02 pm to
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I B Freeman


The definition of ignorance.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 4:00 pm to
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The irony of advocating for FCC control of internet access and using censorship as an argument for it
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