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re: Need PT guidance on shutdown...
Posted on 1/5/19 at 3:07 am to Eurocat
Posted on 1/5/19 at 3:07 am to Eurocat
quote:That is an absolute lie. There was never $25 million in funding. Nowhere close. In fact, it is not clear if there was even 1¢ of that $25M actually in play. The government has a category "approved, not funded." The $25 million fell into that category. It was never funded. Don't be so gullible.
Trump could have gotten 25 billion
Posted on 1/5/19 at 4:21 am to NC_Tigah
By Seung Min Kim March 22, 2018
President Trump has long promoted and promised a “big, beautiful wall” along the southern border — a pledge he made at the start of his presidential campaign that helped fuel his unlikely rise to the White House.
On Wednesday, Trump lost his best chance yet to secure funding for that promise and he won’t get another one for a long time.
Despite a last-minute flurry of offers between the administration and congressional leadership, the massive spending bill finalized Wednesday includes no major boost for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and no protections for “dreamers” — young undocumented immigrants whom Trump once said he would treat “with heart.”
In the $1.3 trillion spending bill, Trump will secure about $1.6 billion in funding for barriers along the border, which White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders touted as a win but is nonetheless far short of the $25 billion the administration had sought for Trump’s wall construction.
Democrats were prepared to give Trump the funding he wanted despite their stiff opposition to a wall, but Trump wasn’t willing to compromise more on the fate of dreamers, leaving it unlikely either issue will be addressed anytime soon.
“He would’ve actually fulfilled one of his goals, even though I abhor that goal,” Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) said of Trump. “He would have solved a major immigration question that’s going to tug at his administration moving in the days ahead.”
SNIP
But Democrats rebuffed the offer, declining to agree to any temporary extension of DACA permits for only the current program enrollees. Democratic leadership countered with a plan to pair the $25 billion in border wall cash and a pathway to citizenship for a broader dreamer population of about 1.8 million immigrants.
The administration rejected that approach, too. Trump was willing to accept a pathway to citizenship for the expansive pool of dreamers if he secured other significant immigration changes, not solely for the wall, one senior White House official said.
SNIP
“President Trump had an opportunity to deliver on two promises. One, build the wall. Two, to sign a ‘bill of love’ for dreamers. His desire to slash legal immigration and increase immigration enforcement makes delivering on these promises impossible,” said Ali Noorani, the executive director of the National Immigration Forum. “To put it another way: Trump had two birds in hand; now he’s got nothing.”
The immigration stalemate in Washington has languished for at least a generation, yet Trump’s decision to wind down DACA offered perhaps the best chance in years for lawmakers to clinch an agreement. The GOP’s thumping in the 2012 presidential elections by Latino voters spurred the Senate to pass a sweeping immigration overhaul in 2013, but that bill was ignored by the House.
Democrats have undergone their own evolution when it comes to Trump’s prized wall. After mocking it for the better part of Trump’s presidential campaign and his first year in office, congressional Democrats recently begrudgingly endorsed a massive infusion of cash for the proposal.
SNIP
But when the legislation was ultimately released, there would be no dreamer protections, no dramatic boost in wall funding and no major changes to immigration policy. It would be unclear the next time Trump would get a shot at fulfilling a campaign pledge.
“Trump blew it; he got greedy and now he probably will not get his wall,” said Kevin Appleby, senior director of international migration policy at the Center for Migration Studies. “Thank goodness.”
LINK
President Trump has long promoted and promised a “big, beautiful wall” along the southern border — a pledge he made at the start of his presidential campaign that helped fuel his unlikely rise to the White House.
On Wednesday, Trump lost his best chance yet to secure funding for that promise and he won’t get another one for a long time.
Despite a last-minute flurry of offers between the administration and congressional leadership, the massive spending bill finalized Wednesday includes no major boost for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and no protections for “dreamers” — young undocumented immigrants whom Trump once said he would treat “with heart.”
In the $1.3 trillion spending bill, Trump will secure about $1.6 billion in funding for barriers along the border, which White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders touted as a win but is nonetheless far short of the $25 billion the administration had sought for Trump’s wall construction.
Democrats were prepared to give Trump the funding he wanted despite their stiff opposition to a wall, but Trump wasn’t willing to compromise more on the fate of dreamers, leaving it unlikely either issue will be addressed anytime soon.
“He would’ve actually fulfilled one of his goals, even though I abhor that goal,” Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) said of Trump. “He would have solved a major immigration question that’s going to tug at his administration moving in the days ahead.”
SNIP
But Democrats rebuffed the offer, declining to agree to any temporary extension of DACA permits for only the current program enrollees. Democratic leadership countered with a plan to pair the $25 billion in border wall cash and a pathway to citizenship for a broader dreamer population of about 1.8 million immigrants.
The administration rejected that approach, too. Trump was willing to accept a pathway to citizenship for the expansive pool of dreamers if he secured other significant immigration changes, not solely for the wall, one senior White House official said.
SNIP
“President Trump had an opportunity to deliver on two promises. One, build the wall. Two, to sign a ‘bill of love’ for dreamers. His desire to slash legal immigration and increase immigration enforcement makes delivering on these promises impossible,” said Ali Noorani, the executive director of the National Immigration Forum. “To put it another way: Trump had two birds in hand; now he’s got nothing.”
The immigration stalemate in Washington has languished for at least a generation, yet Trump’s decision to wind down DACA offered perhaps the best chance in years for lawmakers to clinch an agreement. The GOP’s thumping in the 2012 presidential elections by Latino voters spurred the Senate to pass a sweeping immigration overhaul in 2013, but that bill was ignored by the House.
Democrats have undergone their own evolution when it comes to Trump’s prized wall. After mocking it for the better part of Trump’s presidential campaign and his first year in office, congressional Democrats recently begrudgingly endorsed a massive infusion of cash for the proposal.
SNIP
But when the legislation was ultimately released, there would be no dreamer protections, no dramatic boost in wall funding and no major changes to immigration policy. It would be unclear the next time Trump would get a shot at fulfilling a campaign pledge.
“Trump blew it; he got greedy and now he probably will not get his wall,” said Kevin Appleby, senior director of international migration policy at the Center for Migration Studies. “Thank goodness.”
LINK
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:05 am to Eurocat
quote:That is a lie. Sorry, and it is an audacious article, even for the Amazon Post.
Democrats were prepared to give Trump the funding he wanted despite their stiff opposition to a wall, but Trump wasn’t willing to compromise more on the fate of dreamers, leaving it unlikely either issue will be addressed anytime soon.
Think about it.
The proposal was citizenship for Dreamers.
Let's repeat that ... the proposal was citizenship for Dreamers.
One more time ... the proposal was citizenship for Dreamers.
Yet the TDS here was so strong that the Senior Director of international migration policy at the Center for Migration Studies said "Thank Goodness" when Dreamers did not get citizenship.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:09 am to Pelican fan99
quote:
Time to get a real job baw
Yeah, controlling air traffic is straight up easy! You’re such a clever girl!
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:29 am to notslim99
quote:
controlling air traffic is straight up easy!
It's amazing how easy "the other guy's job" always is, and how much he/she is overpaid to do it.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 6:42 am to Eurocat
quote:
But Democrats rebuffed the offer, declining to agree to any temporary extension of DACA permits for only the current program enrollees. Democratic leadership countered with a plan to pair the $25 billion in border wall cash and a pathway to citizenship for a broader dreamer population of about 1.8 million immigrants.
The administration rejected that approach, too.
So democrats are against a temporary extension of their pet project, DACA, at the current dreamer population, yet democrats say Trump is "unhinged" because he won't accept a temporary extension of another CR...
Why didn't obama give them a pathway to citizenship? How can democrats broaden the dreamers? Seems they were either brought here as infants or they weren't. Why would it need to be broadened? Is it because democrats, including every one of them running in 2020, weren't willing to stick their neck out for them?
Posted on 1/5/19 at 7:27 am to notslim99
Need guidance?
Chill out. IRS doesn’t even start processing refunds till Jan 29th.
There’s your guidance.
Chill out. IRS doesn’t even start processing refunds till Jan 29th.
There’s your guidance.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 7:43 am to notslim99
Root for your children's future and for our country's sovereignty. Root for less trash over the borders and more highly skilled legal immigrants who can push this country forward rather than drag it backwards.
Economize as much as you can, knowing that your emptier coffers will be replenished once the situation ends.
Economize as much as you can, knowing that your emptier coffers will be replenished once the situation ends.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 7:56 am to Eurocat
quote:
Trump could have gotten 25 billion (instead of the five he is asking for now) for the wall 11 months ago,
He kept adding things to his demand list until people stopped negotiating with him.
I am not even so sure he wants the wall, I think he wants there to be no wall so he owns that "issue".
I cry bullshite. He had a five point plan from the outset and they came back with...we will give you the 25 billion if you make Mexico the 51st state, give them all a monthly stipend, and make spanish the official language of the US. Im being facetious, but the offer they came back with was total bullshite and the talking heads ran with this "he had it" ever since.
Should have read the entire thread before responding, NC Im beginning to think you may be my brother from a different mother....
This post was edited on 1/5/19 at 8:01 am
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:14 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:
Chill out. IRS doesn’t even start processing refunds till Jan 29th
Considering I always owe more taxes because the gubment thinks I’m rich, that’s not a concern.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:17 am to conservativewifeymom
quote:
Root for your children's future and for our country's sovereignty. Root for less trash over the borders and more highly skilled legal immigrants who can push this country forward rather than drag it backwards. Economize as much as you can, knowing that your emptier coffers will be replenished once the situation ends.
Best perspective yet. This situation is one reason to always have some savings.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 9:34 am to notslim99
quote:
Yeah, controlling air traffic is straight up easy!
I could never have a job that couldn’t be done with a hangover.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 10:52 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
you could be looking at a very protracted process.
call rush.
He's in charge of trump now.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:01 am to trinidadtiger
quote:
I cry bullshitee. He had a five point plan from the outset
link and copy and paste
He had 5 point Syria plan.
Did not happen
5 point tax plan. He made out.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 11:44 am to notslim99
With the 300k+ jobs created last quarter you should get off the government tit and find a private sector job. Never have to worry about government shutdowns again.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 12:20 pm to C
quote:
Why does trump have to fold and not democrats?
Democrats aren't making any demands - Trump is.
Trump wants something new that the Democrats and a majority of the country do not - what will he give up in exchange for his new wall?
Posted on 1/5/19 at 4:27 pm to MorningWood
quote:
With the 300k+ jobs created last quarter you should get off the government tit and find a private sector job. Never have to worry about government shutdowns again.
Say it with me..... Air. Traffic. Control. Not a lot in the private sector except for a few low level towers. Any other brilliant suggestions?
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:39 pm to notslim99
quote:
notslim99
here is what I would do if I were you
I would open an account with a local credit union (if you do not already have one)
I would sit down with the bank manager and explain the situation
You are very likely going to be able to get a decent loan with low rates (especially if your credit score is over 640 - over 680 or 700 and a loan is a lock, likely for less than 6% or 7%)
If you cannot work something out at a local credit union; check your options on Credit Karma (or some other such site)
I know it is not a perfect solution, but you are not without options
your back pay is guaranteed, so SOMEONE will loan you what you need at a reasonable rate
I would also be negotiating with my creditors and utilities - some may already have plans in place to help people like you
good luck brother
Posted on 1/5/19 at 5:48 pm to notslim99
Go paint houses or do some handy man work like the rest of us did back in 2008.
Posted on 1/5/19 at 6:57 pm to notslim99
quote:
In the event of a government shutdown in the USA, Air Traffic Control continues to operate as an “essential service.” Operational personnel (controllers, supervisors) continue to work, but other personnel (support staff) are usually furloughed. Training is usually suspended. At facilities where the staffing will support it, some controllers may receive a furlough day on a rotating basis, such as one day every two weeks
You aren’t essential personnel. Sit the frick down.
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