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re: NC court says ballots can be counted 9 days after election

Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:23 am to
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:23 am to
quote:

That’s the new precedent.

Thanks John Roberts.
There should be no reason this should not be appealed to higher courts immediately until one with integrity is addressed
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51666 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:24 am to
quote:

They counted ballots in the Gore v Bush situation until December.


It's a little different. Those votes were already in-hand, this is referring to receiving votes.

Why 9 days and not 8? Or 10? Or 15? What's the point of having an Election Day if some judge can arbitrarily move the date of ballot acceptance back to whatever point in time they wish?
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 9:25 am
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:24 am to
Need ACB on the court, now.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Cant wat for the melt when the notorious ACB gets on the bench and Reverses all these rulings

Is this actually going to happen, though?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48977 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:29 am to
No
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:32 am to
Confirm ACB now.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3657 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:34 am to
quote:

And now we can't even be expected to stand in line and vote. We are a country of absolute pussies.

It's even worse than that. People who choose to mail-in ballots can't even be expected to mail it in between now and Monday (26th) to ensure it gets there by Nov 3.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118847 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Cant wat for the melt when the notorious ACB gets on the bench and Reverses all these rulings




My understanding is that SCOTUS refused to hear these cases so the lower court's ruling stand. However once ACB gets confirmed then the plaintiffs will refile and ACB with the four other good justices will hear the case then these lower court ruling have a better chance of getting overturned.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1133 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:37 am to
The post mark has to be clearly legible or they're not valid. How many of those have you seen? The next lawsuit will be to count them anyway.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:38 am to
quote:

My understanding is that SCOTUS refused to hear these cases so the lower court's ruling stand. However once ACB gets confirmed then the plaintiffs will refile and ACB with the four other good justices will hear the case then these lower court ruling have a better chance of getting overturned.

Yes, please.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146920 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:39 am to
this is all confusing. A court said that people have to have a witness on absentee ballots and it caused a lot of ballots to be bad.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/10/14/judge-orders-north-carolina-revise-absentee-ballot-rules/

https://wlos.com/news/election/deficient-absentee-ballots-north-carolina-election-officials-guidance

the OP title is paywalled. It sounds like they gave an extra 3 days because ballots didn't have a witness?

LINK
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
2918 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:41 am to
quote:

The Constitution doesn't specifically discuss when the votes have to be counted.


Fine.

Then why not 90?

How about 900?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26964 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

The Constitution doesn't specifically discuss when the votes have to be counted.


Fine.

Then why not 90?

How about 900?


Uhhh...what do the numbers 90 and 900 have to do with a date?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47135 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:58 am to
quote:

As long as postmark is Nov 3Rd or earlier


The real question is how easy is it to cheat the postmark requirement?

All it would take is for someone to postmark newly, fabricated ballots with a date on, or prior to, November 3rd.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
11002 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:01 am to
We continue to reward laziness and lack of responsibility in this country and we will pay the price down the line.

People know when the frickin election is. Even the dumbest of the dumb are bombarded with it up to a year or more before the date.

Sad.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:02 am to
Mail-in ballots can't be opened and counted before poll closing time on Nov. 3 if I'm not mistaken. Opening, verifying and counting millions of votes in an envelope doesn't happen overnight but nine days does sound a little much.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:04 am to
When were Military and absentee counted before this year?
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:07 am to
Well that gives the liberals more time to manufacture more votes needed. The liberals are already acting like they are flourishing in their socialist power.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54212 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:33 am to
quote:

When were Military and absentee counted before this year?



This is what I found on early ballots. Listed in the link is how each state processes their mail-in ballots. Interesting read.

quote:

This table is part of NCSL’s Voting Outside the Polling Place report.

In many states, processing of absentee ballots can begin before they are actually counted. “Processing” means different things in different states, but typically the first step is comparing the affidavit signature on the outside of the return envelope against the voter’s signature on record to ensure a match, or otherwise verify the voter’s identity. See the section titled, “Processing, Verifying, and Counting Absentee Ballots.”

In some states once the signature is verified the envelope can then be opened and the ballot prepared for tabulation. In essence, states that begin processing before Election Day can “tee up” absentee ballots so that they are ready to be counted as soon as the law allows. By permitting election officials to do a lot of the work ahead of time, the counting process on Election Day (and election results reporting) are quicker. Results are not released ahead of time.


LINK

Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:36 am to
So, they basically start count the morning of election day.
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