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re: NASA: Recent CO2 Increases Not Due to Man

Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:40 am to
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17166 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:40 am to
Well, cow farts! Or BS, or something something something.

Gonna need to move this thread to the Religion Board.
Posted by BigAppleBucky
New York
Member since Jan 2014
1807 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:41 am to
Sounds more like a cascading effect of prior warming.
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In eastern and southeastern tropical South America, including the Amazon rainforest, severe drought spurred by El Nino made 2015 the driest year in the past 30 years. Temperatures also were higher than normal. These drier and hotter conditions stressed vegetation and reduced photosynthesis, meaning trees and plants absorbed less carbon from the atmosphere. The effect was to increase the net amount of carbon released into the atmosphere.

In contrast, rainfall in tropical Africa was at normal levels, based on precipitation analysis that combined satellite measurements and rain gauge data, but ecosystems endured hotter-than-normal temperatures. Dead trees and plants decomposed more, resulting in more carbon being released into the atmosphere. Meanwhile, tropical Asia had the second-driest year in the past 30 years. Its increased carbon release, primarily from Indonesia, was mainly due to increased peat and forest fires -- also measured by satellite instruments.


Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118778 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:44 am to
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Most of the world's land mass warm enough for vegetation is in the northern hemisphere.




Are we sure those fluctuations of CO2 concentrations are not lagging indicators of ocean CO2 release and absorption since most of the land mass in in the northern hemisphere?

CO2 concentration increase during our winter months and the southern hemisphere's summer months where most of the oceans exist. As the southern oceans seasonally warm they are forced to release dissolved gases CO2 being one of them. And thus atmospheric CO2 concentrations increase. Vise versa for our warm season and the southern ocean's cold seasons.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56497 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:47 am to
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Sounds more like a cascading effect of prior warming.



If only we had an example of previous warming periods to test this hypothesis.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:48 am to
bullshite. Its just like polls here in Trumpsucker HQ. We hate polls unless they're MAGA, we hate science unless its MAGA, we hate sitting through the national anthem unless its MAGA.

We hate the facts unless they're MAGA.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24016 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:51 am to
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Are we sure those fluctuations of CO2 concentrations are not lagging indicators of ocean CO2 release and absorption since most of the land mass in in the northern hemisphere


Watch video as the Earth breathes here.


(Video shows carbon dioxide concentrations from for the whole year of 2006, pretty dramatic stuff by the time summer rolls around.)
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:52 am to
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Are we sure those fluctuations of CO2 concentrations are not lagging indicators of ocean CO2 release
Since the oceans have been accumulating CO2 as well I'm gonna go with no.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118778 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:06 am to
What is the monthly, weekly, daily concentration of dissolved ocean CO2 as a function of temperature? Have we measured that?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35397 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:08 am to
Only on the Poli Board can we find people celebrating a rapid acceleration of CO2 in the atmosphere even beyond what humans are producing because some of it is coming from a lack of vegetation that is dying from climate change.

Nevermind that it blows a hole into one of this board's common theories that more CO2 is good for plants.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 11:10 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98785 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:08 am to


Goddamn...
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10928 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:11 am to
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In other news: We believe NASA when they report science we agree with. Otherwise, not so much


My first thought. This place...
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35397 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:13 am to
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“The team’s findings imply that if future climate brings more or longer droughts, as the last El Nino did, more carbon dioxide may remain in the atmosphere, leading to a tendency to further warm Earth."


right?
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:13 am to
This is not saying what you think it is saying.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:14 am to
Don't frick with their religion.

You can see how sensitive they get.
Posted by JJthomson
Member since Oct 2017
55 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:15 am to
I am sure photosynthesis is the dominant driver of the annual CO2 cycle.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24586 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:20 am to
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gthog61


I wish you were smart enough to be able to see how ironic it is that you called someone else sensitive.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:28 am to
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We hate polls unless they're MAGA,


Dude, there is a big difference of hating polls and distrusting polls. If you don't think the polls have been skewed against Trump for the last year or so then you're just not honest enough to continue conversing with.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24016 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:59 am to
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What is the monthly, weekly, daily concentration of dissolved ocean CO2 as a function of temperature? Have we measured that?


What exactly are you trying to argue?

Are you saying that deciduous trees in the Northern Hemisphere do not affect atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations during a year?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73493 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:00 pm to
This can't possibly be science!
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73493 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 12:01 pm to
NASA melt
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