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re: My problem with the Trump wall: it's solving an imaginary problem

Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30414 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

How hard is it to understand that people want the sovereign border of their country secured?


How hard is it to understand a simple cost benefit analysis?


dude..

we added 10 trillion dollars of debt in past 8 years...

where the frick has your fiscally responsible side been hiding?

Can't stand fricking hypocrites man
Posted by HotTakeHerald
Member since Sep 2017
129 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Is the data trending in the preferred direction without a wall? That is the question you should be asking yourself.


The data for violent crime is trending in the right direction. Does that mean its an imaginary problem?
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26688 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:22 pm to
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I'm not going to go through here and address every stupid fricking question in the thread

You've been asked 3 times the past 2 pages to explain what exactly is causing the downward trend.

I don't think that's a "stupid fricking question."

I think you just don't know the answer
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:23 pm to
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With a country of over 320 million people I don't consider it to be much of a problem


I’d like to take your same sword and use it against you for the gun control debate
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:23 pm to
quote:


The data for violent crime is trending in the right direction. Does that mean its an imaginary problem?


You'll never have 0 violent crime

You'll never have 0 illegal immigration

In the real world when something has been trending in the right direction for a long period of time the response to that isn't to abandon what has been working in pursuit of some big government pipe dream

Name one other topic where you would see the numbers improving in such a fashion over this time period and your conclusion would be "What we are doing isn't working, we need to change strategy and implement a big government solution."
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166621 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:24 pm to
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You've been asked 3 times the past 2 pages to explain what exactly is causing the downward trend.

I don't think that's a "stupid fricking question."

I think you just don't know the answer
He will answer in the next post, just wait and see.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:24 pm to
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Dat trend Powerputz trend don't you even trend putz?
Dude can't even keep up with his own stupidity
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:24 pm to
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I’d like to take your same sword and use it against you for the gun control debate



I'm for 0 additional gun control even if we have 5 school shootings by the end of the day today

Now that you know my stance, good luck.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157499 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:24 pm to
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big government solutions


1) Border protection is one of the few roles FedGov should perform
2) If additional fencing and walls are big government then what the hell is Medicaid and Social Security?


Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90315 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

what has been working
Which is what Putz?

quote:

Name one other topic where you would see the numbers improving in such a fashion over this time period and your conclusion would be "What we are doing isn't working, we need to change strategy and implement a big government solution."

Moar questions!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Dude I'm not going to go through here and address every stupid fricking question in the thread


Wants to dodge questions for 3 pages. Then, responds with..........no answer.......but a question.

Nice try dude. Wanna Try again.

I think the below summarizes stuff some people have asked.
1. Why is 310K ok? Explain beyond quoting population.

2. What's driving the trend?

3. If you can't answer 2, how do you know the "trend" isn't merely a corollary to something else?

4. Absent knowing 2 or 3, do you think trends must continue? I'm sure there are others you've ducked. But, we can start there.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166621 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:25 pm to
What exactly is causing the downward trend?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157499 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:26 pm to
Powerfail:

Doesn't like your questions...
Calls them stupid to avoid answering...

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:26 pm to
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What exactly is causing the downward trend?
All you need to make decisions is a graph.

Go try that in the stock market.

Let me know how it works out.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:26 pm to
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What exactly is causing the downward trend?

I know what's not: a border wall
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90315 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

I know what's not: a border wall

So close Powerputz so very close.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:28 pm to
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Doesn't like your questions... Calls them stupid to avoid answering


Which, of course, is great comedy.

I know he's not going to really even try to answer. Dumb arse literally responded to those the first time by asking ME a question!

LOL. fricker thinks I'm going to answer HIS question after he spends 10 pages not answer mine.

I suppose I will answer them. I'm going to apply the same standard. After he answers mine, I'll wait about 12 pages. Then, answer his.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26662 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:28 pm to
Let me tell all of you what is coming across that border. I am on a local site arguing with the bleeding hearts in Baldwin Co. Alabama. Right now 10 percent of the inmates arrested last month were illegals and I cant find that number. But 46 had a history with ICE.

If this is going on all over that's a lot of bad guys.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

All you need to make decisions is a graph.

Go try that in the stock market.

Let me know how it works out.

Knowing the reason the numbers are going down isn't as important as first acknowledging that they are in fact going down

Many here are refusing to even do that
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90315 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:29 pm to
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refusing
What a tool.
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