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re: My Child's AP Government Textbook Cover

Posted on 9/22/17 at 5:55 pm to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 5:55 pm to
You are petty as frick, OP.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:01 pm to
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Would you mind enlightening us on just how MLK is relevant to the study of the philosophical basis, structure and functioning of our government?
What? Besides the nation's creation and the Civil War, I can't think of anything else in our history that was a such a pervasive self-reflection of the principles, values, and purposes of government, both in theory and practice that directly involved all 3 branches of government and all levels of government than the Civil rights movement.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:04 pm to
Google "American inventors" if you wanna be really triggered
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:07 pm to
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Thurgood Marshall
Solid choice.
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Ben Carson
What?
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but blacks can't recognize a picture of the former would have been better choices
Most people wouldn't recognize his picture, considering most people don't even know that the first amendment is apparently.
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and white liberals have taught them to despise the latter.
Maybe they have, but it doesn't make any sense to say Ben Carson would be a better choice.

But just from what I can recall from your posts, between blacks, hispanics, liberals, and Muslims, you show a lot of disdain for a lot of people.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:08 pm to
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Google "American inventors" if you wanna be really triggered
I know that your a troll, but this has been posted many times by others.

I don't understand how people don't realize why African-American Investors are the first results when searching American Inventors.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:10 pm to
The Civil Rights movement is centered around and would be completely toothless without the public accommodations clause, which required private parties to provide services to private parties (or else), and required skirting or tearing down other ideals that were once revered.

All anathema to the American system of government, so I disagree.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:27 pm to
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The Civil Rights movement is centered around and would be completely toothless without the public accommodations clause, which required private parties to provide services to private parties (or else), and required skirting or tearing down other ideals that were once revered.
Your responses always address something that I didn't argue. My statement about the relevancy of the Civil Rights movement to our government is unrelated to one's views of the movement and/or the causes and results of it.
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All anathema to the American system of government, so I disagree.
The whole government involvement in private matters is something I struggle with as it relates to my principles, so I can see your view there. On the other hand, I think your downplaying the impact on government that the Civil Rights movement had. Regardless, my post wasn't related to how the result of the movement aligned or failed to align with the system itself.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:30 pm to
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I know that your a troll, but this has been posted many times by others.

I don't understand how people don't realize why African-American Investors are the first results when searching American Inventors.



I wont respond to your liberal drivel in the second sentence but I will say that I was the first person that posted about the "american inventors" phenomenon

i saw it on one of my trump meme pages on fb
Posted by ljhog
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:33 pm to
And MLK's role in either the Revolutionary War or the War of Northern Aggression?
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self-reflection of the principles, values, and purposes of government

Yes a great role model. However, no matter the exemplary a figure he was or how righteous the cause he represented neither offers instructive insight into a democratic republican form of government nor on the roles and relationships of the federal and state governments.
To instruct otherwise is to advance a political agenda and indoctrinate students in its intent instead to educate on the subject.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:35 pm to
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He was a minister.

So yes, I'm triggered due to the implied non-separation of church and state message.


Would it have triggered you in 1776 when a minister signed the DoI?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:36 pm to
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neither offers instructive insight into a democratic republican form of government nor on the roles and relationships of the federal and state governments.


tell that to Orval Faubus and the Little Rock Nine

I can't believe this is the hill some of you are choosing to die on today.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 6:49 pm
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 6:37 pm to
One of the derpiest posts to grace this board.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:01 pm to
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Would you mind enlightening us on just how MLK is relevant to the study of the philosophical basis, structure and functioning of our government?


Dude it's a symbol - like all covers of textbooks.

So, maybe the fullfillment of "all men are created equal" which is pretty much the big point in the Declaration of Independance and therefore a major basis in formulating a system of government.

This is taking shite way too literally and it's like crying (as I posted earlier) that an Eagle is on an AP American Government textbook (which it is) - what does Ornithology have to do with American Governance?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:08 pm to
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And MLK's role in either the Revolutionary War or the War of Northern Aggression?
What? I clearly specified those as the other notable but separate events at the beginning of the post. I'll quote or just in case you forgot:
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Besides the nation's creation and the Civil War,
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Yes a great role model.
Whether he was or not, it's not really relevant to my posts.
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neither offers instructive insight into a democratic republican form of government nor on the roles and relationships of the federal and state governments.
Well the only thing that actually does this is the Constitution and to a lesser extent the other laws and codes on the books. Everything else is essentially a case study of how those functions and principles play out in reality. It's taking the rulebook and the playbook in football and seeing the result in the field, good or bad.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85584 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:11 pm to
omg shut up. Eisenhower federalized the Arkansas National Guard to escort the Little Rock Nine into school following SCOTUS ruling in Brown v. Board of Education on 14th Amendment grounds.

You could teach a whole semester of civics and federalism on that sentence alone.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 7:43 pm
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:15 pm to
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So, maybe the fullfillment of "all men are created equal" which is pretty much the big point in the Declaration of Independance and therefore a major basis in formulating a system of government.


Now, this is the only post since I started this discussion that I could halfway buy as to why MLK would ever belong on a textbook about "Government". Still a stretch to come to that conclusion on my thick-headed own..but if anything about this has a glimmer of making sense, this is about the only thing I would consider......other than that, still just a liberal statement on a textbook to me.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:18 pm to
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One of the derpiest posts to grace this board.



Honored to be at the top of your "derp" pile..
Posted by LSUandAU
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:18 pm to
That cover is a joke. MLK was neither a government institution or a policy maker. It would be more appropriate to have a picture of the Capital next to a image of the Constitution or Bill of Rights. A left political agenda created that cover and the implication is that his arms are crossed, because he doesn't accept the nation's institutions like the Washington monument. Sadly, the revisionist text in the book is probably worse that the cover.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15011 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:19 pm to
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That cover is a joke. MLK was neither a government institution or a policy maker. It would be more appropriate to have a picture of the Capital next to a image of the Constitution or Bill of Rights. A left political agenda created that cover and the implication is that his arms are crossed, because he doesn't accept the nation's institutions like the Washington monument. Sadly, the revisionist text in the book is probably worse that the cover.


Exactly.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17545 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:23 pm to
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Exactly.


Have you actually read any of it?

Oh and the 15th edition has a cover that you couldn't possibly be mad about so take solace in that.
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