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re: Musk, Vivek, RFK were all Trojan horses

Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:05 am to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:05 am to
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Welcome to poli board where the same few ppl freak the frick out over nothing to make it something

I'm sure there are some that you see doing that that are actually doing that, but there are far more guys like you and SDV that freak the frick out anytime there's mention of something that could possibly cast DT in a negative light.

I'm not freaked out about the H1B issue, but it's an issue. It's okay to discuss political issues on a politics message board. And you have to admit, it's a little interesting to see the Trump superfans do somersaults from a policy/principle standpoint in order to stay perfectly aligned.

Now to the issue - do you see the parallels between the H1B visa issue and the open border issue? That's all some of us are addressing. Put simply, I think you'll agree that a million H1Bs per year would be too much, and 10 H1Bs per year would be too few. The discussion is about what the right number is if the objective of the program isn't to simply lower labor costs for most favored industries and suppress wages for American workers. Just like the economic part of the open border debate.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20198 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 11:09 am to
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deltaland


All them are on board with closing the border. You just mad that they can look at a 50,000” level we need for remaining a dominant technological super power and you are not. Until we unfrick our education system we will have to rely on some foreign STEM workers. Those are facts not feelings.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13604 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:42 pm to
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This entire thing is so overblown. People need to chill the frick out.


It's mostly the TDS crowd who are just gnashing their teeth, waiting to pounce on anything that they can jump up and down to excitedly scream at and point to as an I-told-you-so Trump/MAGA "failure."

This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43177 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Until we unfrick our education system we will have to rely on some foreign STEM workers.


Our education system is far superior to these countries, and those same people migrate here to take advantage of it.

Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21177 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:02 pm to
Maybe Trump is more of a moderate and has always been. He is not a true conservative and more of a moderate populist. I don’t understand why this is hard to understand.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97981 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:05 pm to
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I'm sure there are some that you see doing that that are actually doing that, but there are far more guys like you and SDV that freak the frick out anytime there's mention of something that could possibly cast DT in a negative light.




Rent free. Not joining in your daily complain, whine, cry melt fest over nothing isnt freaking out

You "males" are some of the biggest drama beta queens to ever walk this earth
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:09 pm to
No one gets into office without approval from the Tiny Hat mafia. Trump is no different.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76445 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:14 pm to
The bad is never ever freekin ever leaving the swamp. Period. Maybe when man is extinct. Everyone freaking out about one thing or another and a lot of these are little fires trying to wedge Trump from his supporters and especially aimed at wobbly Senators and House members. I advise everyone to see what actually happens instead of all the pre panic and pushed on us doubts.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157757 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:15 pm to
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Rent free. Not joining in your daily complain, whine, cry melt fest over nothing isnt freaking out

Nearly everything that flies off your fingertips is retarded and/or dishonest.

quote:

You "males" are some of the biggest drama beta queens to ever walk this earth

Says the fig that emotes all over this board about any DT slight.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70594 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:15 pm to
The same yellow bellied, RINO cuck/leftist, swamp worshipers have been starting these threads. These people will never stop, don’t know why it surprises anyone.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22714 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:16 pm to
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roadGator

It'll go unanswered. Trump superfans are the softest faction in American politics today, and they largely incapable of arguing in support of their own positions.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55463 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:17 pm to
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Guys like BuckyCheese and Roger were warning MAGA over and over about Vivek and RFK.

First, RFK is an obvious lefty. He is being aimed at a particular field, health, that is not really a lefty/righty issue. Who cares what his politics are other than health?

The problem with Vivek and Musk isn’t really a problem at all. They probably see eye to eye with Trump on most things. The real problem is that Trump, like all Presidential candidates, had to speak to the electorate in very clear terms that could be understood and rallied around. Had he said the truth, it would not have resonated and won him so many voters, and the truth on immigration, that Trump is smart enough to understand, is this:

- Illegal immigration is bad and must be stopped.
- Our economy desperately needs high levels of immigration.
- Our economy also desperately needs high levels of itinerate workers.
- We should end illegal immigration and start selecting our immigrants the way an NFL team selects its players. And that means radically limiting Muslims and choosing stable people with the skills that we need.
- We should repurpose our immigration bureaucracy to manage large numbers of guest workers who are tracked and monitored to make sure they are gainfully employed and not causing trouble.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157757 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:17 pm to
Goatmilker, where’s the line between discussing issues and freaking out/crying/melting/ and who decides it.

I’ve perused this thread and others where some good discussion gets called something it isn’t.

It’s almost as if some, not you, call any post remotely critical to DJT don’t want anything unapproved discussed.

It’s a repeatable and predictable pattern.
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
11146 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:17 pm to
And guys like Jeff Sessions Paul Ryan and Mitch were just okay.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157757 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:18 pm to
The answer will be…


Cuck, cuck, cuck, cuck

Or melt, cry, bleed…

It’s a broken record at this point.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16763 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:20 pm to
I don't know that Musk is for open borders, but he's a pragmatist and taking other countries best and brightest, especially in the tech industry, makes sense on some levels. I also see the counter argument, but if they are better than what we have here, I think you do it to stay ahead of the tech curve vs the world. If they are replacing Americans that are their equals or betters, then wtf are we doing?
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25429 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:29 pm to
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His followers better get to making a lot of noise. They have more influence with him than they know.


quote:

BuckyCheese


So then who, pray fricking tell, are you a supporter of?
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1520 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:38 pm to
tweet replies to Musk like this sum it up.

And for the record I have no problem with MAGA begging for government intervention and welfare.

Every group does it

but at the same time, guys like this, socialists and communists for asking for less

just own it i say and dont pretend to be capitalist.

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Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76445 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:39 pm to
Think of it as the most chaotic battlefield ever lol
You set foot on it? You don't know where or who the shots come from. I operate much like Rush did. He didn't go after his side as much cause plenty of others took care of that for him. Trump is not a guy I would like to hang with but he damn sure is a guy I like to vote for as my President.
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