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re: Mrs M is in Lane Hospital struggling with double Covid pneumonia.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:14 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:14 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
I have nothing to offer but prayers for you and your wife.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:16 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Ask what medications she is getting in her IV. I know the only time to see docs is early on rounds. But ask the nurses desk.
I am hoping someone who lives there can help you some how. Please ignore the politics people are bringing in this thread.
It is what it is she is sick.
Prayers for both of you.
I am hoping someone who lives there can help you some how. Please ignore the politics people are bringing in this thread.
It is what it is she is sick.
Prayers for both of you.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:17 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Sorry to hear that. Prayers for you.
I don’t know docs, but a solid protocol is the FLCCC MATH+ Hospital Protocol here.
LINK
I don’t know docs, but a solid protocol is the FLCCC MATH+ Hospital Protocol here.
LINK
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:17 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:If she is in ICU on oxygen, they won't use monoclonal antibodies (at least here she wouldn't qualify).
Or monocolonial antibodies
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:20 pm to ShockTroop
quote:good advice
Please get a medical power of attorney over your wife! Different states and different hospitals have different policies regarding the decision making ability for another’s care. It’s better to be safe!
Everyone who has a child over 18 needs to get a medical power of attorney over them. It might be rare to have to use it but it’s better to have it just in case.
God Bless and I hope your wife gets better!
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:30 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Sorry to hear this. I fear for anyone who has to deal with our current deranged medical system.
I know you're worried and fear for her, and I'm not trying to doom you out, but based on recent experience...
If she's covid positive and the administrators are Covidians, eventually the Covidians will want to whisk her away and give her Remdesivir. Then they'll keep her another week or so to see if they can put her on a vent. It's easy money for the hospital.
Recently went through this with my mother in Richmond. She went to Henrico for potassium deficiency. She was recovering from covid, doing well in that regard, and still popped positive when admitted, no symptoms.
They did a good job diagnosing and treating for the potassium deficiency (water pill was blocking uptake).
AS the doctor was okaying her release the Covidians took her to another floor, denied my sister access to her and started Remdesivir.
She was there for 3 days before, covid positive, no symptoms, zero covid protocols. They snatched her up on her way out to make some extra bucks.
A PIA isn't a bad idea. Anything you can do to help maintain access and control.
I know you're worried and fear for her, and I'm not trying to doom you out, but based on recent experience...
If she's covid positive and the administrators are Covidians, eventually the Covidians will want to whisk her away and give her Remdesivir. Then they'll keep her another week or so to see if they can put her on a vent. It's easy money for the hospital.
Recently went through this with my mother in Richmond. She went to Henrico for potassium deficiency. She was recovering from covid, doing well in that regard, and still popped positive when admitted, no symptoms.
They did a good job diagnosing and treating for the potassium deficiency (water pill was blocking uptake).
AS the doctor was okaying her release the Covidians took her to another floor, denied my sister access to her and started Remdesivir.
She was there for 3 days before, covid positive, no symptoms, zero covid protocols. They snatched her up on her way out to make some extra bucks.
A PIA isn't a bad idea. Anything you can do to help maintain access and control.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:35 pm to Von
quote:
Sorry to hear this. I fear for anyone who has to deal with our current deranged medical system.
This
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:38 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Avoid respirators & get proper treatment. Joe Rogan level stuff & don’t take no for an answer.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:39 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
This sucks.
This is probably the most current and innovative protocol for hospitalized COVID patients:
Hospital Treatment Protocol for Covid-19
ETA: already posted by BobBoucher
This is probably the most current and innovative protocol for hospitalized COVID patients:
Hospital Treatment Protocol for Covid-19
ETA: already posted by BobBoucher
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:51 pm to Diamondawg
quote:
If she is in ICU on oxygen, they won't use monoclonal antibodies (at least here she wouldn't qualify).
Why?
Posted on 1/6/22 at 12:59 pm to the808bass
From what I have read and heard, you have a 5 day window from the onset of symptoms to get the monoclonal antibodies.
Anything after that 5 days is too late.
To the OP, I wish I could help you and your wife. I will pray very hard for you guys.
Anything after that 5 days is too late.
To the OP, I wish I could help you and your wife. I will pray very hard for you guys.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:02 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
hate to hear this,
sending the best Karma I have your way
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:07 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:
Stay away from remdisiver (sp) & vent.
This is what I fear and have no medical support to rely on.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:07 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:
Stay away from remdisiver (sp) & vent.
This is what I fear and have no medical support to rely on.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:09 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
First off, I hope your wife makes a quick and speedy recovery.
My advice to you would be to listen to her doctors and stop listening to most of the idiots on this board.
The reality is that the vast majority of people do just fine with Covid with Min symptoms. The problem is that the ones that get it bad don’t do well.
A cautionary tale to the anti science people on here. It’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and be a bad arse until a loved one is in the crosshairs.
Prayers for your wife, you and family
My advice to you would be to listen to her doctors and stop listening to most of the idiots on this board.
The reality is that the vast majority of people do just fine with Covid with Min symptoms. The problem is that the ones that get it bad don’t do well.
A cautionary tale to the anti science people on here. It’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and be a bad arse until a loved one is in the crosshairs.
Prayers for your wife, you and family
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:11 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Prayers for Mrs M. I’m getting over the pneumonia now as we speak. I think keeping moving did me way more good than any of the breathing treatments or steroids they gave me
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:12 pm to BobBoucher
quote:
a solid protocol is the FLCCC MATH+ Hospital Protocol here.
This is what I'd be demanding.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:16 pm to tiger1014
More people on here probably do more research than most of the covidian sheep doctors.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:17 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Retro-active notes from our experience (CV Delta pneumonia / vented nine days)
I went in with double pneumonia when O2 started getting under 80, ten days after positive test. High flow O2 got the numbers up to >90 for first two days of ICU, but the conditions became dire in a hurry.
If they won't let you into the ICU per facility protocol, ask who drafted the protocol and get a copy in writing.
Do whatever it takes (bio-suit, attorney, etc.) to get into that ICU room as the patient’s legal advocate.
I was given Remdesivir as protocol with no side effects, but they were constantly giving me blood work for some level of concern. I can’t see how that med treats pneumonia if the CV is already waning.
Covid creates micro-clots. See if they have checked for clots, I don’t remember the name of the procedure, but it is an ultrasound device. Inquire on the use of anti-clotting medication.
Indications of a pulmonary embolism event, d-dimer enzymes and a crash in O2 levels <75 and they put you on a vent. Mine was thirteen days after initial diagnosis (same time frame as Carlos Marin).
Learn about peep pressures and O2 levels for the vent, just in case it gets to that.
Day three on the vent O2 was back up in the 90s, but from some reason they never took an xray to see if the congestion had cleared enough (it had) to pull the vent.
Got to get off that vent as soon as it's safe, otherwise the diaphragm could atrophy and recovery becomes a real challenge.
Get a second opinion from another pulmonary MD if need be, not a nurse practitioner certified for pulmonary. I read my records, and came to the conclusion that my pulmonary MD that I have known for years made a mistake. No time to consider hurt feelings.
Be wary of the amount of sedition, Fyntenal is a hell of a drug, but there is a percentage of people who reject a vent and will want to pull it out. That is a dangerous event. I subconsciously slipped my restraints and pulled my vent on day nine. My wife went through hell, but when the sedation wore-off I did not remember anything after the day I went to urgent care. Twenty one days.
When she gets out of ICU, request the protocol for discharge and post-discharge care. I was out of ICU and in a room one day off the vent. If you don’t press, they’ll keep her there as long as a provider is footing the bill ($4500/day). Wife couldn’t get it out of them. Day four in that room alone, I told them I was leaving thru the front door or out of the window. That got the ball rolling.
Companionship lends to healing and being in that room even for five minutes means the world for healing.
Good luck. God be with you. Everything will be OK.
I went in with double pneumonia when O2 started getting under 80, ten days after positive test. High flow O2 got the numbers up to >90 for first two days of ICU, but the conditions became dire in a hurry.
If they won't let you into the ICU per facility protocol, ask who drafted the protocol and get a copy in writing.
Do whatever it takes (bio-suit, attorney, etc.) to get into that ICU room as the patient’s legal advocate.
I was given Remdesivir as protocol with no side effects, but they were constantly giving me blood work for some level of concern. I can’t see how that med treats pneumonia if the CV is already waning.
Covid creates micro-clots. See if they have checked for clots, I don’t remember the name of the procedure, but it is an ultrasound device. Inquire on the use of anti-clotting medication.
Indications of a pulmonary embolism event, d-dimer enzymes and a crash in O2 levels <75 and they put you on a vent. Mine was thirteen days after initial diagnosis (same time frame as Carlos Marin).
Learn about peep pressures and O2 levels for the vent, just in case it gets to that.
Day three on the vent O2 was back up in the 90s, but from some reason they never took an xray to see if the congestion had cleared enough (it had) to pull the vent.
Got to get off that vent as soon as it's safe, otherwise the diaphragm could atrophy and recovery becomes a real challenge.
Get a second opinion from another pulmonary MD if need be, not a nurse practitioner certified for pulmonary. I read my records, and came to the conclusion that my pulmonary MD that I have known for years made a mistake. No time to consider hurt feelings.
Be wary of the amount of sedition, Fyntenal is a hell of a drug, but there is a percentage of people who reject a vent and will want to pull it out. That is a dangerous event. I subconsciously slipped my restraints and pulled my vent on day nine. My wife went through hell, but when the sedation wore-off I did not remember anything after the day I went to urgent care. Twenty one days.
When she gets out of ICU, request the protocol for discharge and post-discharge care. I was out of ICU and in a room one day off the vent. If you don’t press, they’ll keep her there as long as a provider is footing the bill ($4500/day). Wife couldn’t get it out of them. Day four in that room alone, I told them I was leaving thru the front door or out of the window. That got the ball rolling.
Companionship lends to healing and being in that room even for five minutes means the world for healing.
Good luck. God be with you. Everything will be OK.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:17 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Sorry to hear this.
Request hydroxychlorquine and I'm sure they have her on antibiotics already. Request vitamins through IV.
Make sure they have her on blood thinners, antibiotics, get them to give vitamins through IV.
What are her blood sugar levels? Those need to get low if they are high. Low carb diets. High blood sugar is why diabetics get kicked in the @ss.
Request hydroxychlorquine and I'm sure they have her on antibiotics already. Request vitamins through IV.
Make sure they have her on blood thinners, antibiotics, get them to give vitamins through IV.
What are her blood sugar levels? Those need to get low if they are high. Low carb diets. High blood sugar is why diabetics get kicked in the @ss.
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