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More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...
Posted by Azkiger on 1/24/23 at 4:45 pm
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I don't get what the big deal is. He wants the Daily Wire to pay him for access to his youtube audience but is complaining that he won't get paid if he loses his youtube audience?
is that right?
is that right?
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by Texas Weazel 
on 1/24/23 at 7:47 pm to BeepNode
on 1/24/23 at 7:47 pm to BeepNodeHe's mad that DW wouldn't pay him if he was demonetized. He wants to get paid, even if his actions would have costed the company revenue.
Crowder is just making a silly argument. He wants to claim DW is all about money, yet he is crying about money himself. This is all just stupid. This is a dumb PR stunt to attract content creators to his new publishing company.
Crowder is just making a silly argument. He wants to claim DW is all about money, yet he is crying about money himself. This is all just stupid. This is a dumb PR stunt to attract content creators to his new publishing company.
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by theunknownknight 
on 1/24/23 at 8:23 pm to Texas Weazel
on 1/24/23 at 8:23 pm to Texas Weazelquote:
He wants to claim DW is all about money
I am barely following this but you are mischaracterizing Crowder’s stance. Crowder is calling them hypocritical for writing clauses into their contracts that make those who work for the DW beholden to big tech’s fascist policies, the very policies DW makes bank railing against.
This post was edited on 1/24 at 8:24 pm
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS 
on 1/24/23 at 8:28 pm to BeepNode
on 1/24/23 at 8:28 pm to BeepNodequote:it’s a rebel within the system vs a rebel fighting the system
I don't get what the big deal is. He wants the Daily Wire to pay him for access to his youtube audience but is complaining that he won't get paid if he loses his youtube audience
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re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by Azkiger on 1/24/23 at 8:30 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
I am barely following this but you are mischaracterizing Crowder’s stance. Crowder is calling them hypocritical for writing clauses into their contracts that make those who work for the DW beholden to big tech’s fascist policies, the very policies DW makes bank railing against.
Crowder wants his pay guaranteed even if he gets banned from various social media accounts (and therefore unable to air ads that make DW money).
It's good for him, not good for DW.
Unsurprisingly DW passed.
This post was edited on 1/24 at 8:31 pm
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by JasonMason 
on 1/24/23 at 8:50 pm to Azkiger
on 1/24/23 at 8:50 pm to AzkigerAll you daily wire simps are being just as disingenuous as Shapiro.
IF Crowder brings half of the 400k he claimed to have, Daily Wire is getting their money's worth from subs alone. If Crowder gets demonetized in that situation not only does DW still have the sub money, they would be fining Crowder and clawing that money back they paid him. I don't understand why y'all keep ignoring this. It would have been a lot better deal if DW would have offered a revenue split. DW makes more, then Crowder makes more.
IF Crowder brings half of the 400k he claimed to have, Daily Wire is getting their money's worth from subs alone. If Crowder gets demonetized in that situation not only does DW still have the sub money, they would be fining Crowder and clawing that money back they paid him. I don't understand why y'all keep ignoring this. It would have been a lot better deal if DW would have offered a revenue split. DW makes more, then Crowder makes more.
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by wutangfinancial on 1/24/23 at 9:02 pm to JasonMason
on 1/24/23 at 9:02 pm to JasonMasonWe don’t do numbers here, Jason
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by efrad on 1/24/23 at 9:04 pm to theunknownknight
on 1/24/23 at 9:04 pm to theunknownknightquote:
I am barely following this but you are mischaracterizing Crowder’s stance. Crowder is calling them hypocritical for writing clauses into their contracts that make those who work for the DW beholden to big tech’s fascist policies, the very policies DW makes bank railing against.
It doesn't make him beholden to big tech's fascist policies, it simply shares the penalties for being demonetized among both parties. Crowder wants Daily Wire to take the entire hit.
Crowder ALREADY self-censors for his YouTube published content so he doesn't get banned (he's already admitted this in the past), and puts the extra content up for mug club members. Crowder doesn't want to lose the eyeballs on YouTube
Daily Wire does the same thing for their YouTube content and puts the extra content up on Daily Wire
It's the same thing, he's just upset that Daily Wire wants to share the revenue loss with him.
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by JasonMason on 1/24/23 at 9:44 pm to efrad
on 1/24/23 at 9:44 pm to efradquote:
It's the same thing, he's just upset that Daily Wire wants to share the revenue loss with him.
No he's upset they want to share the loss while NOT sharing the gains.
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by efrad on 1/24/23 at 10:05 pm to JasonMason
on 1/24/23 at 10:05 pm to JasonMasonquote:
No he's upset they want to share the loss while NOT sharing the gains.
The initial offer was 50M if monetized, 37.5M (-25%) if not monetized or his ad revenue drops below 50% for more than 90 days
The losses would disproportionately affect Daily Wire worse than Crowder
Crowder himself = 37.5M
Monetization/Ad revenue continuity goals = 12.5M
Gains = For what??
And it's "not about the money"?
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by JasonMason on 1/24/23 at 10:30 pm to efrad
on 1/24/23 at 10:30 pm to efradThat wasn't the only potential fee reduction in the term sheet. Let's go with that though. So he's now at 37.5 million over 4 based on your numbers. So that's less than 9.5 million a year. 25-30 employees + production costs. What's left?
Then add on top of that DW is getting those Crowder subs whether he's monetized on YouTube or not. Conservatively say he brings in 200k which seems very low. That's between 18-25 million annually.
Crowder also has a significant following on rumble where he'd still be able to earn as revenue in your scenario. Poor DW would still be making money hand over fist on this deal.
Daily Wire wouldn't be losing money on the deal. Crowder would.
Then add on top of that DW is getting those Crowder subs whether he's monetized on YouTube or not. Conservatively say he brings in 200k which seems very low. That's between 18-25 million annually.
Crowder also has a significant following on rumble where he'd still be able to earn as revenue in your scenario. Poor DW would still be making money hand over fist on this deal.
Daily Wire wouldn't be losing money on the deal. Crowder would.
re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...Posted by Jimbeaux on 1/24/23 at 11:00 pm to JasonMason
on 1/24/23 at 11:00 pm to JasonMasonSo maybe Crowder should have made a counter offer with your logic points, since it was just a term sheet to start the negotiations.
Nah, frick all that negotiation shit! Burn em down!
Nah, frick all that negotiation shit! Burn em down!
The guy you are responding to is talking about others being disingenuous, yet he ignores the fact that it was clearly an initial term sheet to negotiate off of. Non-binding.
The defending of Crowder’s skyscreaming is getting pathetic at this point
The defending of Crowder’s skyscreaming is getting pathetic at this point
At this point just piss on the whole dumb thing. It’s done. If Crowder has as many Mug Club subscribers as he says he should be able to stay afloat. He put himself in this predicament, he can make his own way.
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