re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...

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All you daily wire simps are being just as disingenuous as Shapiro.

IF Crowder brings half of the 400k he claimed to have, Daily Wire is getting their money's worth from subs alone. If Crowder gets demonetized in that situation not only does DW still have the sub money, they would be fining Crowder and clawing that money back they paid him. I don't understand why y'all keep ignoring this. It would have been a lot better deal if DW would have offered a revenue split. DW makes more, then Crowder makes more.

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DW was willing to pay more...

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It wouldn't have been non binding if he agreed to it.

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Yes, “IIIIFFFFFF”! If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

Crowder is a crying little bitch.

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I am barely following this but you are mischaracterizing Crowder’s stance. Crowder is calling them hypocritical for writing clauses into their contracts that make those who work for the DW beholden to big tech’s fascist policies, the very policies DW makes bank railing against.

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If you're barely following this, then it stands to reason that you barely know what's going on with it. Crowder's "stance" is completely erroneous. They have their own platforms to do and say whatever they want. But on those where they can't, you cannot promise to pay a person a certain amount of money, when he can't promise that he'll bring in the revenue to justify it.

This idea that we're just gonna "stick it to the man" or "stick it to big tech" by going in with guns blazing, is an ignorant and short-sighted view of what we're up against. If you want to build something that can ACTUALLY compete with the major news and entertainment corporations, and not just laugh it up with your echo chamber, you have to have money in order to build the infrastructure necessary to do that. The people at DW, though I don't agree with all of them all the time, have faced tons of censorship, and fought back. They'd fight for Crowder. But they can't guarantee anything on platforms that are so volatile for conservatives. They do not have "screw you" money to just throw around at people to show how "tough" they are in standing up to big tech. That would be irresponsible.

Crowder doesn't know anything about running a business. He just wants to yell and curse, and be surrounded by people who laugh at his jokes, and just let other people figure out a way to cover his losses, if something goes wrong, it seems. Again, he can do that on his own platform. He's not going to have near the outreach, however, if he loses his Youtube audience. Same goes for everyone at DW. Youtube, and other big tech media is where they get their collective foot in the door. Because big tech owns so much of everything on the internet, you can't expect to beat them, if you aren't willing to use their own tools against them. And you can't use their own tools against them if you are behaving recklessly and getting banned from everything. Crowder knows this. But he pretends that DW is caving to big tech, when everyone knows how this game is played. And yes, there is always the chance that you get banned for no real reason. We all live in that world. but none of us would want to pay someone for something they aren't doing, regardless of why they aren't doing it. If you invest in a stock, and you see that stock failing, you sell before you lose everything you put in. Because you don't invest with the idea of getting nothing in return, or losing money.

But everyone in Crowder's corner is really missing one other very key thing: This was a term sheet. Everything was open to negotiation. If Crowder lost revenue in one place, they would work with him to make up for it somewhere else. Because they want to succeed, and that means they wanted him to succeed.

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If you're barely following this, then it stands to reason that you barely know what's going on with it

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You missed my obvious point. I am barely following, yet Crowder was clear enough in his point for me to understand.

Are their other monetary factors, like Crowder having to pay for his own show/staff with his salary? Sure.

But that doesn’t mean we have to mischaracterize his other main arguments.

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But everyone in Crowder's corner is really missing one other very key thing: This was a term sheet. Everything was open to negotiation. If Crowder lost revenue in one place, they would work with him to make up for it somewhere else. Because they want to succeed, and that means they wanted him to succeed.

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You're right it was open to negotiation, but the problem is it started from a bad faith position from DW. Crowder was ALREADY demonetized on YouTube. There have also already been a few creators that have alluded to the DW making bad offers. They just didn't take it personal like Crowder.

That said, since the DW is trying to paint this like Crowder mistreating a "friend", they made an awfully shitty offer to a "friend". Why even start from that term sheet if admittedly Jeremey expected some of those things to get removed?

DW does good work. Crowder does good work. DW is funded by billionaire Romney conservatives. Crowder never would have fit in.

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IF Crowder brings half of the 400k he claimed to have, Daily Wire is getting their money's worth from subs alone.

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Then all he had to do was counter that IF he accomplished that, then all the penalties in the contract are non applicable.

Instead hes stomping his feet like an entitled brat while pretending hes actually white knighting for the little guy.


DW doesnt need to be “right” for crowder to look silly here. Especially after all the years hes spent minding his P’s and Q’s on Big Tech platforms…. You know, the very thing he is now appalled to be asked to do. It’s ludicrous.

Negotiating is free, Jason

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I don't get what the big deal is.

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Drama queens who get excited over online beefs.

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Negotiating is free, Jason Lawyers love to work for free!

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Wanna know how I know you dont have a single clue

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Multiple lawyers disagree with you, and I take their opinion over Lou Pai from tigerddroppings.com.

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admit it, this is the first time you've heard of a term sheet. It's okay.