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re: More audio between Crowder and Boreing has been leaked...

Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:10 am to
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4931 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:10 am to
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admit it, this is the first time you've heard of a term sheet. It's okay.


No actually. I've done contract work before. Again, I believe lawyers who have worked with content creators specifically on contracts over Lou Pai from tigerdroppings.com.

Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19675 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:56 am to
Well said.

I like Crowder but he's way out of line here.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18703 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:59 am to
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hat wasn't the only potential fee reduction in the term sheet. Let's go with that though. So he's now at 37.5 million over 4 based on your numbers. So that's less than 9.5 million a year. 25-30 employees + production costs. What's left?

Then add on top of that DW is getting those Crowder subs whether he's monetized on YouTube or not. Conservatively say he brings in 200k which seems very low. That's between 18-25 million annually.

Crowder also has a significant following on rumble where he'd still be able to earn as revenue in your scenario. Poor DW would still be making money hand over fist on this deal.

Daily Wire wouldn't be losing money on the deal. Crowder would.


These are a lot of words just to say "Yes, it is actually just about the money."
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18703 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:59 am to
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You missed my obvious point. I am barely following, yet Crowder was clear enough in his point for me to understand.



So basically, you haven't really looked into it but you're taking Crowder's words at face value.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14222 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:01 am to
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If you actually believe for one second DW did not know his monetization status on YouTube, you're a fool.


I literally said it doesnt matter if you do or not, and this is what you come back with.

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Again, why put it in there if you are just going to take it out?


Because thats how negotiations work?

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You're only looking at this from the side of the DW and what Ben has told you clearly


No, im looking at this as someone who sees Crowder being disingenuous. Faux outrage over a solicited offer trying to detail a business model that he has worked under his entire career.


If you want to change the business model, then go do it on your own and show them. That i could support.

Turning others in the space into your boogeyman is just bush league.



If the napkin math you keep using is so simple, then Crowder should be happy to be out on his own for the first time in his career. Go make all the money.

Instead we’re 2 weeks into his PR blitz of turning other conservatives into the bad guys. Because of a disagreement over business models. And oh by the way, dont forget to signup!



And since you keep deflecting with DW over and over, let me make it clear for you. Jordan Peterson is the only one at DW I like and its from long before he went over there.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18703 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:03 am to
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Multiple lawyers disagree with you, and I take their opinion over Lou Pai from tigerddroppings.com.



Which lawyers read this:




...and conclude it's binding?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:09 am to
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He's mad that DW wouldn't pay him if he was demonetized. He wants to get paid, even if his actions would have costed the company revenue.

Crowder is just making a silly argument. He wants to claim DW is all about money, yet he is crying about money himself. This is all just stupid.


The whole thing gets more and more ridiculous the more you hear about it. At the end of the day, the stupid thing was DW and DC even considering joining forces. Both conservative pundits with huge/very overlapping audiences, but with approaches so different it was never going to work. Short term or long term.

They'd have been better off just sticking to guest appearances and sniping/quipping at each other occasionally. This brouhaha turns people off to both of them.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60901 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:48 am to
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So basically, you haven't really looked into it but you're taking Crowder's words at face value.


This isn’t rocket science

Crowder SAID why he did what he did

I followed that much. He was clear in what he said and his reasoning. The poster I was responding to attributed reasoning to Crowder that mischaracterized what I know he said.

The rest I don’t care about or have followed.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:43 pm to
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Crowder is calling them hypocritical for writing clauses into their contracts that make those who work for the DW beholden to big tech’s fascist policies, the very policies DW makes bank railing against.


This is a good example of why “hypocrisy” is sometimes morally justified.

People are regarded about hypocrisy.
Oh a preacher had an affair!!! See, Christianity is just a bunch of bull!!
Derp
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28011 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:50 pm to
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IF Crowder brings half of the 400k he claimed to have


He claimed to have 400k subs?

His counter offer was 30 mil a year. 400k subs equals 40 mil a year.

Crowder doesn't know how many subs he has.
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