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re: More American women are single than ever before—and it’s costing them big money

Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:57 am to
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5818 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:57 am to
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So emotional. lmao


Emotional enough to white knight?

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You share their worldview and ideology and hold similar opinions of women.

Passport bro label fits you semantics aside


Whateves bruh.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61456 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:03 pm to
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I hope venting on this Board helps but this really isn’t a societal problem.


This is so typical. Disregard the claims the woman made because she’s hormonal/emotional
/whatever. This feeds exactly into my argument that women are not valued by society.

Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5818 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:03 pm to
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How so?


Sure, play coy.

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Why didn’t she get the UBI you keep referencing?


Did I say she didn't?

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I’m not here shitting on Women and single moms, so I’m not sure why you feel like you need to justify your wife’s existence to me. A few posts ago you called her lazy and a horrible mother that you paid to be a stay at home mom then later divorced, forcing her into a homeless shelter, so I’m not sure which narrative I’m supposed to believe


You had the nerve to say I lacked reading comprehension skills...

There is a difference between 1st wife and 2nd wife. This was very clear.

And you teach!?!?!

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straw man. Impossible to have an honest discussion with you


Not straw. You claimed mothers did not get 3rd party pay for raising kids.

I want my 3rd party pay for doing the lawn today. Not getting paid for it, by you standards, shows that I am devalued.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28172 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:12 pm to
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I want my 3rd party pay for doing the lawn today. Not getting paid for it, by you standards, shows that I am devalued.


Bro... I changed my wife's sparkplugs two weekends ago...

I was perfectly fine with it when my wife walked by and playfully slapped my rear while I was under her hood, but maybe I need to be a bitter activist wanting to change society because no 3rd party paid me...
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61456 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:16 pm to
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If my wife was working, and I was working, and our children were in daycare, and after school etc... I really don't think I could have spent so many of the hours getting good at what I do. If I'm working at 1am from home and have to go in at 6 the next morning, if I have to fly across the country, or just take a work trip to another location, I can do it, because my wife takes care of everything else.


What this can also look like is the man taking the work trips while the woman stays home to take care of kids, etc. The woman passes on going on her own work trips because she’s the primary caregiver and feels an obligation to her kids. She misses out on attending conferences, networking, etc that her unpaid labor at home enables her husband to take advantage of, in turn allowing his career to advance at a faster pace than her own.

I appreciate you acknowledging that one spouse has to sacrifice their career in ways when children are involved. That’s usually completely ignored or diminished in these discussions.

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The solution is to actually praise being a mother, it is the hardest job on this planet.
Parenting in general is not easy, but kids are particularly demanding of their mothers.

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We need more children, we need parents spending time with them so they grow into great Americans.

Agreed.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:18 pm to
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Bro... I changed my wife's sparkplugs two weekends ago...

I'll bet. Va-Va-Vooooom!
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61456 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:19 pm to
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Not straw. You claimed mothers did not get 3rd party pay for raising kids.


I sure did. I said this unpaid labor is devalued because it’s unpaid.

This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5818 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:20 pm to
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Bro... I changed my wife's sparkplugs two weekends ago...

I was perfectly fine with it when my wife walked by and playfully slapped my rear while I was under her hood, but maybe I need to be a bitter activist wanting to change society because no 3rd party paid me...


Not my stance bruh.

Chubbies says that since she takes care of her own child, and does not recieve 3rd party pay, that proves mothers hold no value in society.

I was just being a smartass.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28172 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:21 pm to
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I was just being a smartass.


Same.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5818 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:21 pm to
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I sure did. I said this unpaid labor is devalued because it’s unpaid


So by me taking care of my lawn, changing my oil (and wife's), unclogging the sink, and many other tasks, I am devalued?
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:22 pm to
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unpaid labor.
SS does not consider it as such.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5818 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:29 pm to
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This is so typical. Disregard the claims the woman made because she’s hormonal/emotional
/whatever. This feeds exactly into my argument that women are not valued by society


Do you not understand that by dismissing this poster's genuine concern for your well being, you are showing you feel this poster has no value to you?
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28172 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:35 pm to
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I sure did. I said this unpaid labor is devalued because it’s unpaid.




I'm just imagining a husband paying his wife to watch their children, then charging her that same amount to live in his home and eat his food.

Why do progressives have to make everything so hard?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20127 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:48 pm to
I’m not disregarding anything. My wife had post partum depression and it sucks. It takes friends and family to work through it.

What I am clearly stating is that I don’t believe this is a societal problem and there isn’t some societal solution nor is it some bigger issue in how society doesn’t appreciate women.

Choices have to be made when children come into the mix. For every mom that misses theit career there’s a dad in a hotel that misses being with their kids.

Thanks for the dialogue.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 12:52 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13574 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:54 pm to
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"some women" vs "men" ?


Just remember, teachers sexually abuse children.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13574 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:57 pm to
Y'all are completely wasting your time.

You know this, right?

She can't keep your arguments straight, she can't even keep her own arguments straight, nor does she even care about keeping them straight.

She feels a certain way and that's all that matters, regardless of anything else.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:38 pm to
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depression
I get that vibe here as well, which is a little worrisome
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 2:50 pm to
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I don’t want UBI or anything like that but some type of credit or deduction for a parent in a married filing joint household to stay home and raise a family would be a huge benefit. The reality is that once you reach a certain income you pay 100% for everything, get phased out of any deductions and are forced to cover all expenses, healthcare, retirement, college, etc. for you, your spouse and kids just for making the decision that one should raise the kids rather than farming them out so you can have a dual income.


Agreed totally, and I think we make the money back on the next generation, more Americans having more kids.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 3:07 pm to
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What this can also look like is the man taking the work trips while the woman stays home to take care of kids, etc. The woman passes on going on her own work trips because she’s the primary caregiver and feels an obligation to her kids. She misses out on attending conferences, networking, etc that her unpaid labor at home enables her husband to take advantage of, in turn allowing his career to advance at a faster pace than her own.


I don't see it like that, my wife and I are a team, we have only one bank account, we work as a family unit.

Whoever has the most earning potential (which includes desire to work) should work, and whoever has the most desire to take care of the kids should stay with the kids.

I don't know why you think "networking" and going to conferences is something that is an advantage.

My wife and I see it that one person needs to leave the home, take all the stress, work long hours (Every Friday is WFH which is a nice perk, but it always starts well after the 40th hour), do the travel, deal with bad bosses, things that go wrong.

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I appreciate you acknowledging that one spouse has to sacrifice their career in ways when children are involved. That’s usually completely ignored or diminished in these discussions.

But why is it a sacrifice? Why is a career so important to you?

I work to live, not live to work.

If you hit the lottery tomorrow would you still come into your office?
Would you hire a nanny to raise your kids because you going into the office is that important?

And I mean this seriously, not tongue in cheek, what do you feel you are missing out on by not having a "career"? Social credibility?

It's not fulfillment, no career is going to fulfill you, ever, all the 60-80 year olds I know have regret on how much time they spent at the office.

One of my mentors just before he retired told me his biggest regret was how much he worked. This was a man who reached the peak of his profession, the highest level of technical achievable, he was respected by everyone.

And that was his final advice before he quietly retired and left all his awards in his office.

So that's my advice to you, work as hard as you can to provide for your family, but never get confused as to which one is priceless and which one is a sacrifice.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
18049 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 3:49 pm to
White men bad black men bad. All they got to do is look in the frickin mirror theirs your answer.
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