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re: More American women are single than ever before—and it’s costing them big money

Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:39 am to
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:39 am to
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They can't understand that a Bachelor's Degree in Education


Who do you think helped you get the

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Bachelor's Degree in Chemical Engineering.


Society needs teachers, ditch diggers, plumbers, etc.

Why are you looking down your nose at others?

Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:53 am to
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Guess what, my vows included obedience to my husband, because the Bible teaches women, no matter how successful, that we are to submit. We are born of a nature, and society is trying to wipe the blackboard clean. Sorry, it's permanant and indelible.


What do you mean by obedience to my husband?

I have my idea but am curious what you mean by this.

On the face it sounds completely insane and weird to me and a huge red flag.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61456 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 9:56 am to
I think upvotes are really important to some people. Healthy, well-adjusted adults don’t brag about being obedient to anyone.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5818 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:01 am to
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Healthy, well-adjusted adults don’t brag about being obedient to anyone.


To have a healthy marriage, both man and woman should be fairly obedient to each other.

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complying or willing to comply with orders or requests


Imagine if you will, the total hell of a marriage if neither were the above.

I know, I know. You will get stuck on the word "order". There is also the word "request". I do not obey orders. I do not expect my better half to obey orders either. We both obey each others wishes and requests though. That makes us both obedient to each other.

Probably why your world view is sick.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 10:04 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61456 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:05 am to
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Single moms get state equivalent of UBI. If not, the man pays.


What reality do you live in where no single mom works? As if government benefits provide a comfortable life and there are furnished homes sitting vacant waiting for single moms to come claim them.

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What the frick do you want? You want pay for that?
I want misogynistic megalomaniacs like you to stfu about how you paid your wife and mother of your child to do the easy work of raising your child and taking care of your family. Your marriage appears to have been transactional, which explains why it didn’t last.

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Sorry you feel burdened by it to a degree you want pay.



I can see why you hate teachers now. They clearly failed you, considering your lack of reading comprehension abilities.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 10:06 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61456 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:06 am to
Nothing you replied with addresses bragging about being obedient to another adult.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:08 am to
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And just for an example to you

My current wife fled a war torn country, with two young kids, came to this country, raised both of them, on her own, while working two jobs, and did not have near the support you have.

She does not feel even remotely the same as you. I wish I would have known her then. I value the shite out of what she did. Her story mirrors mine greatly.

Oh yeah, she was born and raised socialist, in a socialist country. She is big time MAGA now. Maybe she, unlike you, learned the evils of collectivism.


You are a Passport bro. Your posts all make complete sense now with these new details.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:11 am to
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How so? I am encouraging women to take more high paying jobs, not less.


You are openly hostile and hold contempt for people who do not hold your exact worldview.

You only see in value in jobs / professions that make GDP line go up.

Your worldview is myopic and will lead to a boring, dull society.

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Ok bruh, I never wore a PFG.

So women should not be engineers and finance bro-ettes....got it.



You are clearly retarded. You are trying way too hard to be cool with the "bruh" how do you do fellow kids energy.

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You got all of this from just one sentence.


I've read all your posts in this thread and have figured out your worldview.

You are a braindead passport bro who hates women and view them soley as objects.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 10:14 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5818 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:16 am to
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What reality do you live in where no single mom works? As if government benefits provide a comfortable life and there are furnished homes sitting vacant waiting for single moms to come claim them.


They are garaunteed state UBI even if they do work.

Did you just ignore how my current wife raised two kids, while single and employed with two jobs.

You always ignore what you do not agree with.

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I want misogynistic megalomaniacs like you to stfu about how you paid your wife and mother of your child to do the easy work of raising your child and taking care of your family. Your marriage appears to have been transactional, which explains why it didn’t las


I see you ignored where I told you I raised my son after divorcing my first wife because she did nothing. If it were transactional, as you say, my son would not have cut all ties with her, as he did, and supported my claims in court, which he did.

Why do you matriarchal misoginistic meglomaniacs never aknowledge what us men do for you? Why do you think you deserve something special? As if men take no part in any child rearing as well as home maint and daily chores.

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I can see why you hate teachers now. They clearly failed you, considering your lack of reading comprehension abilities.


I love teachers. I just hate the shitty public school teachers whose lack of compassion for their own children and husband leads her to believe she should be paid to do simple tasks. These same teachers have great lack of reading comprehension.

Sorry you have zero value.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5818 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:18 am to
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You are a Passport bro. Your posts all make complete sense now with these new details


You complete and utter idiot.

Passport bros go to other countries to find younger women.

I met mine here by luck of chance.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5818 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:23 am to
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You are openly hostile and hold contempt for people who do not hold your exact worldview.



Irony?

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You only see in value in jobs / professions that make GDP line go up


Nope. Government spending also makes GDP go up. I am not a big fan of some of that either. Use GNP brother.

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Your worldview is myopic and will lead to a boring, dull society


Okaaaaaayyyyyy.....

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You are clearly retarded. You are trying way too hard to be cool with the "bruh" how do you do fellow kids energy


Sorry for being Cajun. Do you have a problem with our venacular? Tell me more about how compassionate and understanding you are.

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You are a braindead passport bro who hates women and view them soley as objects


If you believe this...

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I've read all your posts in this thread and have figured out your worldview.


Then you did not do this


Everyone, meet Chubbies husband.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20127 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:25 am to
Okay, after reading through all of this it sounds like there’s some post partum mom thing going on here where you’re not happy (at this moment) with your situation and responsibilities that you’re having to tackle…..and particularly there’s no appreciation for what you’re having to do and how that may or may not be affecting your career as well.

I hope venting on this Board helps but this really isn’t a societal problem.

Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 10:31 am to
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You complete and utter idiot.


So emotional. lmao.

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Passport bros go to other countries to find younger women.

I met mine here by luck of chance.


You share their worldview and ideology and hold similar opinions of women.

Passport bro label fits you semantics aside.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7970 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:12 am to
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I hope venting on this Board helps but this really isn’t a societal problem.

I do in general think it's a societal problem that didn't exist before women were told they are bad feminists if they don't try to juggle a career and motherhood.
Children are a full time job. It's just factual. Either we raise them ourselves, or we send them to others, but it will be someone's job to raise them.
Society has pretended that two working people who do half parenting is better than one person who can dedicate fully to a career and one who can dedicate fully to children.

I don't really have a care if it's the Man or the Woman who stays with the children, usually one will have a much higher earning potential.
Since I got married my salary has 3Xed we went from apartment living to a rather nice house that's had a good chunk paid off.
If my wife was working, and I was working, and our children were in daycare, and after school etc... I really don't think I could have spent so many of the hours getting good at what I do. If I'm working at 1am from home and have to go in at 6 the next morning, if I have to fly across the country, or just take a work trip to another location, I can do it, because my wife takes care of everything else.

That becomes money, lots of it. One elite employee who continues to get done what needs to get done makes at least as much as two employees who are barely able to hold it together.
Of course two elite employees who offload their children to others make more, but I think that's foolish.

Society tells women they need to have a career, it tells men to pick a woman with good career opportunities.
The solution isn't to praise women who do both and force companies to pay women more for less work.
The solution is to actually praise being a mother, it is the hardest job on this planet.

I'm more than ok with UBI for the parent of young children in the form of tax write offs.
The working Parent makes $100k, for each under 18 kid they get $3k tax credit per kid, $10k if one parent is full time stay at home.
We need more children, we need parents spending time with them so they grow into great Americans.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 11:17 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20127 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:21 am to
You and I have very similar lives and I agree 100%.

I don’t want UBI or anything like that but some type of credit or deduction for a parent in a married filing joint household to stay home and raise a family would be a huge benefit. The reality is that once you reach a certain income you pay 100% for everything, get phased out of any deductions and are forced to cover all expenses, healthcare, retirement, college, etc. for you, your spouse and kids just for making the decision that one should raise the kids rather than farming them out so you can have a dual income.

In that light you’re right, the system makes it very difficult to do what’s been done for generations and should be the accepted model for raising a family.
This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 11:51 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28173 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:37 am to
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Healthy, well-adjusted adults don’t brag about being obedient to anyone.


Everyone is obedient to someone.

Modern women are chosing more and more to be obedient to corporate America.

It's a strategy. Sure. But women accepting of more traditional roles (supporting their husbands) don't have the same depression/mental health issues. So there's certainly something there.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139060 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:46 am to
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As I've told you before, if women were PAID less, 100% of my hires would have been women. Guaranteed!
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Well you are a frickin moron. You get what you pay for lmao.
Gosh, I missed this jewel.

No, nitwit.

If the caveat is that equally competent women could do an equally competent job (which they could in the case I'm addressing), but only cost me 80% of what a male hire would, then I'd have paid less and gotten more than I paid for. My hires would have been 100% women, given that scenario. The fact is women received equal pay though.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28173 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:46 am to
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But because women aren’t paid by a third person to complete the work they do at home, that labor is devalued.


In a traditional relationship where everything is shared, isn't her labor valued the same as her husband's? She is getting to live in whatever home his labor can afford, eat whatever foods his labor can afford, go on vacations his labor can afford, etc.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28173 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:54 am to
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Men want to have sex with women so women are valued as objects of sexual desire and as providers of unpaid labor (child rearing and managing households).


This is interesting.

How do you characterize what women want?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61456 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 11:54 am to
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They are garaunteed state UBI even if they do work.


How so?

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Did you just ignore how my current wife raised two kids, while single and employed with two jobs.

Why didn’t she get the UBI you keep referencing?

I’m not here shitting on Women and single moms, so I’m not sure why you feel like you need to justify your wife’s existence to me. A few posts ago you called her lazy and a horrible mother that you paid to be a stay at home mom then later divorced, forcing her into a homeless shelter, so I’m not sure which narrative I’m supposed to believe.

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leads her to believe she should be paid to do simple tasks.
straw man. Impossible to have an honest discussion with you.
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