Moms for Liberty come out against mental health services in school.

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Do you tell 2nd grade boys about sex or that they are girls?

That’s what they are after.

Mental health services yes.

Trans bullshite no.

Sounds like a program that in the future will be abused by groomers.

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I write this because I’m curious what this Board thinks about lobbying against school-based mental health services.

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They seem to have become a backdoor into applying "gender affirmation" to children without the consent of parents. Tons of examples of this.

This is why MFL came out against it.

I am sure it is not that cut and dry.

I suspect they are against such services without parental notification or consent.

I also suspect it is in opposition to any "gender-affirming" services

Man just say no to forced government psychology

It’s being abused to push a leftist agenda via schools.

What we are witnessing is the stripping down of institutions to do only their primary purpose because of the blatant abuse that has occurred.

I’m the OP

To address the comments i’ll just say

- the school-based programs i ran were evidenced-based and we kept outcomes to show how effective we were.

- we had regular audits from each of the 5 manged care companies and from the Joint Commission

- I would hire and have fired any therapist who didn’t uphold the highest ethical standards first and foremost. I would never hire or retain any therapist who didn’t provide quality services.

- i would provide a link by honestly i don’t know how to do that

- we say we have a mental health problem in this country and we do. God help us if we don’t have highly skilled and ethical professionals to address those needs.

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we say we have a mental health problem in this country and we do

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The problem is you get people like Ben Simmons and Calvin Ridley claiming made up mental health issues to shield themselves from media scrutiny.

People in this country think that regular things like being nervous before a job interview is a mental health crisis and no one is willing to tell them to stop being a pussy.

I'm a pediatrician. I recognize the explosion of mental health issues in our youth. I am confronted with it daily. On paper, the idea of "school based mental health interventions" sound great but many of the concerns/criticisms raised by people in this thread are valid. Psychology, psychiatry and even primary care are being overrun, shaped, and controlled by people with a far-left agenda. People who oppose that agenda are being sidelined and crowded out of these disciplines.

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- the school-based programs i ran were evidenced-based and we kept outcomes to show how effective we were.

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Evidence-based programs can be good, but what evidence are these programs based on? We have seen too many manipulated and massaged "studies" that are touted as "science" when they are thinly veiled tools to further a specific agenda and can be torn apart by anyone who reads them critically. However, those who point this out are often-times strong-armed into silence. Once silenced, the discipline can claim nearly-universal agreement when in fact, they've merely driven off dissenters and critics (who likely comprise a silent majority, not merely a fringe element the leftists would like to paint them as). This tactic has completely transformed the AAP over the last decade and it resembles a political PAC with all the charm of the gestapo rather than a medical society these days.

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we had regular audits from each of the 5 manged care companies and from the Joint Commission

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Accountability is good, but as someone who has two decades of experience dealing with both the joint commission and managed care companies, I can say with confidence that their audits are, for the most part, utter shite. What they care about (the little check boxes they like to see checked) often times has very little to do with good patient care.

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- I would hire and have fired any therapist who didn’t uphold the highest ethical standards first and foremost. I would never hire or retain any therapist who didn’t provide quality services.

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A reassuring statement, but light on details. The concern here is that "ethical standards" in many cases mean "hiding the content of therapy sessions from parents" or "providing gender-affirming care while purposely obfuscating that fact from legal guardians." I'm not saying that's what you mean, but many a leftist therapist has argued that hiding their 'gender affirming' treatments from parents is required by their ethics.

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we say we have a mental health problem in this country and we do. God help us if we don’t have highly skilled and ethical professionals to address those needs.

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As I've stated, I agree whole heartedly that there is a mental health problem. People who even have the most rudimentary education and training to address it are in short supply. Having such people available in the schools would be a god-send. But how are parents to be assured their values and beliefs aren't being undermined by a professional provided to their child that they have no hand in choosing/vetting?

As a personal anecdote on the quality of mental health services available in schools, I'll offer this: two years ago, my then sixth-grade daughter communicated with her best friend via a google document on her school-provided Chromebook. In her document, she jokingly wrote she was so irritated by something going on in school, she was going to "jump out of the window" if it didn't stop. Of note--the school is a single story building and the windows don't actually open. I was called in by the school counselor and told I had to take my child out of school for an emergency mental health evaluation because this was treated as a serious suicidal threat despite my child's insistence it was a joke between friends. She was not allowed to return until this evaluation was complete. She had had zero contact with the office or her counselor at any point in her school career prior to this (she has never been a problem student, has never made a grade lower than an A, has never been involved in an altercation, etc). In light of this, I'm not sure I could trust the government to provide reasonable mental health services even if I trusted them not to push a leftist agenda.