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re: Minneapolis shooter confessed he was ‘tired of being trans’
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:37 am to AGGIES
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:37 am to AGGIES
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Why do you assume the influence is only coming from the parents?
I dont
I assume it comes from peers, social media, teachers in some cases, etc
But the ultimate influence in a lot of these cases is the parents. Many parents "affirm" the delusions instead of seeking help. No matter what outside influences there are, it's up to the parents to help the kids. Not feed into their delusions and peer pressure.
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:37 am to AGGIES
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Just curious. Why do you assume the influence is only coming from the parents?
Look at this:
I don't think anyone thinks his parents, or any other particular person, created that. He was born broken and had the wrong stimuli (Sandy Hook) at the wrong developmental time.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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His psychosis predated the trans stuff by a while. The trans shite was clearly a symptom of a much larger psychological problem for this particular individual.
His obsession with doing a mass shooting predated his trans shite by almost a decade. I don't think the trans stuff really had much impact on the larger picture.
No shite sherlock. No one goes to bed perfectly normal and sane then wakes up the next morning deciding to change their gender and develops a mental health issue at the same time.
Being trans doesn't cause mental health issues, mental health issues lead to someone becoming trans as they are searching for a normal feeling. And not all people with mental health issues become trans.
We have to stop pretending that this is normal and acceptable. Instead, we need to get these people the help they need.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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they don't see a future
Young adult liberals grew up in a world where the media has told them incessantly that the world is going to end from global warming any day now. Every few years they make up another milestone for doomsday predictions
I still think the single biggest contributor to their pessimism stems from turning their back on God. The biggest problems that come up in life feel small when you surrender to Jesus
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:39 am to stout
Depending on the
School the teachers are socialists and pushing this shite.
It’s a social contagion.
School the teachers are socialists and pushing this shite.
It’s a social contagion.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:39 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Notice how nobody is asserting there was a lack of “resources” for this kid to get help
Per him, he specifically avoided therapy/counseling because he would be "immediately reported, and put on a watch list".
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:40 am to stout
Ok, but you said parents brainwashing.
I agree with the rest of your points though
I agree with the rest of your points though
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:40 am to roadGator
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It’s a social contagion.
The current gender trend, absolutely.
Just more of the destruction of all things traditional.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:41 am to pickle311
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No shite sherlock. No one goes to bed perfectly normal and sane then wakes up the next morning deciding to change their gender and develops a mental health issue at the same time.
Being trans doesn't cause mental health issues, mental health issues lead to someone becoming trans as they are searching for a normal feeling. And not all people with mental health issues become trans.
We have to stop pretending that this is normal and acceptable. Instead, we need to get these people the help they need.
Best post of the thread.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:41 am to AGGIES
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Ok, but you said parents brainwashing.
There are many cases of parents brainwashing
Megan Fox has three sons and all three are "trans"
What are the odds of that if the kids aren't being brainwashed?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:42 am to 4cubbies
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dehumanizing trans people
I can’t think of a greater example of dehumanization than encouraging a human to lie to themselves and to others and to pretend they’re a different human than their chromosomes indicate.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:42 am to Old Character
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You feel that everyone, with a little love and understanding, will be a contributing member of society
Not necessarily, but we were all kids once. I have spent a lot of time around kids who confided in me. Kids struggle and are impressionable. I believe that with the right kind of support (NOT "gender-affirming care"), most people who claim to be trans would live normal lives as their biological sex. Some compassion and acceptance (not acceptance as the pretend sex) would go a long way.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:42 am to 4cubbies
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The consensus here seems to be that further excluding and dehumanizing trans people will cause them to be come well-adjusted and productive members of society.
The consensus is that trans people need treatment for a mental health disorder. At BEST, it's limited to gender dysphoria. It's a lot more likely, as in this case, that there's more to their sickness.
Your support for affirming care harms them and harms society.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think anyone thinks his parents, or any other particular person, created that. He was born broken and had the wrong stimuli (Sandy Hook) at the wrong developmental time.
Yikes. This kid needed help many years ago.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:43 am to tigerlion
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I can’t think of a greater example of dehumanization than encouraging a human to lie to themselves and to others and to pretend they’re a different human than their chromosomes indicate.
I have not seen one single post in any of these threads advocating for trans acceptance.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:43 am to pickle311
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No shite sherlock. No one goes to bed perfectly normal and sane then wakes up the next morning deciding to change their gender and develops a mental health issue at the same time.
Being trans doesn't cause mental health issues, mental health issues lead to someone becoming trans as they are searching for a normal feeling. And not all people with mental health issues become trans.
We have to stop pretending that this is normal and acceptable. Instead, we need to get these people the help they need.
Remove the trans stuff (Hell, this thread presumes that was starting, if not completed by the time of the shooting) and is there a shooting? Possibly.
Remove the underlying mental illness and is there a shooting? No
Why focus on the trans stuff, given that paradigm?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:43 am to 4cubbies
4chubb,
I actually agree with you here. His parents failed him. ...and society.
I actually agree with you here. His parents failed him. ...and society.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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Per him, he specifically avoided therapy/counseling because he would be "immediately reported, and put on a watch list".
Perhaps. It still doesn’t address the issue that under the framework whereby we must refuse to look at being trans as a possible manifestation of other psychological issues, it’s likely a lot of other people were cut off from being able to further encourage or compel him to seek such assistance, which any number of troubled people (with other outward manifestations) certainly need to get them over the hump.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:44 am to 4cubbies
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Not necessarily, but we were all kids once. I have spent a lot of time around kids who confided in me. Kids struggle and are impressionable. I believe that with the right kind of support (NOT "gender-affirming care"),
Adult support often means telling them "no" more than constantly being permissive.
Youre doing good citing the feminine parenting traits, but you're forgetting half the equation.
Affirmation often is toxic.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:44 am to moneyg
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Your support for affirming care harms them and harms society.
How did you draw this conclusion? What did you see me post that made you think "Yep! 4cubbies supports affirming care"?
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