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re: Mind-blowing 2020 election math.....
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:54 pm to oldskule
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:54 pm to oldskule
quote:
BIDEN:
81,000,000 votes (supposedly)
477 counties carried
TRUMP:
75,000,000 votes
2,497 counties carried
For comparison (2008)
OBAMA:
69,000,000 votes
873 counties carried
I am not Albert Einstein, but that shite don't add up!
TRUMP carried 84% of all counties in the USA, and lost.
Unfamiliar with the concept of cities, I see...
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:56 pm to Jyrdis
quote:
Population centers are a bitch
Population centers weren’t around when Obama ran. Everyone knows that.
OP, now do number of precincts that went 95% + for Biden. For reference 75ish % is about the best red or blue swing you can expect to get in any area with a few exceptions. 85% doesn’t pass the Biden sniff test. Places around philly and Milwaukee went bluer than Manhattan
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:56 pm to Wednesday
quote:
8 people have explained how Biden lost half the counties Obama won and still got roughly 18 million more “votes.”
I must have missed that. Maybe you can dumb it down for me.
I can try.
1. OP’s numbers are wrong, Biden actually won 527 counties. Still less than Obama in ‘08, though.
2. Biden could have lost the popular vote and the election, and still won more votes than any Democratic candidate in history. That’s what happens when a record number of people vote in an election.
3. As has been discussed ad nauseum, the US population is heavily weighted towards urban centers. In fact, the counties Biden won account for 67 million more people (total population, not just voters) than the counties Trump won:
So those Biden counties account for 60% of the US population, yet Biden only won 51.3% of the popular vote.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:58 pm to oldskule
quote:
TRUMP carried 84% of all counties in the USA, and lost.
It’s almost like most people live in big cities.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:58 pm to oldskule
Q was a lie, the storm was a lie, the arrests were a lie, trump was a lie. But, but, but the election fraud was real!! Ok, cool.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:58 pm to lostinbr
Data can be summarized a lot of different ways
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:01 pm to oldskule
quote:
BIDEN:
81,000,000 votes (supposedly)
477 counties carried
TRUMP:
75,000,000 votes
2,497 counties carried
For comparison (2016)
OBAMA:
69,000,000 votes
873 counties carried
I am not Albert Einstein, but that shite don't add up!
TRUMP carried 84% of all counties in the USA, and lost.
First, it helps to know 50% of the countries population is in just 143 counties once you grasp that it begins to make more sense.
What a lot of people are overlooking is how Biden overperformed Hillary (who got nearly the exact same number of votes as Obama in 2016) in most of the deep-red areas. So to make the suggestion the popular vote was way out of whack you would have to assume counters in deep-red counties were taking votes from Trump and giving them to Biden.
Here is a link to an interactive map that you can compare votes for 2016 to 2020 by county. Poke around in there and see how few red counties Biden did not get more votes than Hillary and how many of them he actually got an increased percentage as well.
RGJ Map
The other day I looked at 10 red counties generally at random except avoiding more than one in any state, of the 10 Biden got more votes than Hillary in all of them, I will list them here but also looked at 30 more and found a decrease against Hillary in only two.
County State Hillary vote Biden Vote
Elkworth KS 515 646
Unitah UT 1002 1663
Buffalo NE 4690 6350
Potter TX 7620 9921
Obion TN 2425 2598
Pettis MO 4322 4783
Randolph WV 2724 3362
Charles Mix Sd 935 1177
Harney OR 682 894
Calhoun AL 13197 15216
In those 10 deep red counties, Biden increased his votes 22% over Hillary. Hillary got 65,853,514 so an increase of 22% would be 80,341,287 votes. That is pretty close to what Biden got in 2020.
The more you dig the more the numbers make sense, if you look at Tweets alone you miss part of the picture. Poke around the site I listed and do some math and you will see a better picture.
Again just 143 counties have over half the US population, the information you provided (albeit wrong on the number of counties Biden won, it was just over 500) while being accurate leads people to make an inference that a fuller look at the facts doesn't support.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:04 pm to Obtuse1
HILLARY CLINTON RESUSCITATED THE DINOSAURS!!! MICROCHIPS!!
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:06 pm to GoGo
quote:
Number of Posts: 10
Registered on: 1/21/2021
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:09 pm to GoGo
to get the most overall votes all time
while also winning the fewest counties of all time
makes no fricking sense at all and is just one of a thousand data points on this being a hoax
while also winning the fewest counties of all time
makes no fricking sense at all and is just one of a thousand data points on this being a hoax
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:10 pm to blowe
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Number of Posts:35
Registered on:9/25/2011
It isn't shocking that a) you are an obvious alt-troll, or b) you don't understand the point of the OP's stats.
Eta: downvoting with your alts. Nice.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:11 pm to Tigergrad84
quote:
Q was a lie, the storm was a lie, the arrests were a lie, trump was a lie. But, but, but the election fraud was real!! Ok, cool.
the same machine that created the Q larp also created the election hoax
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:11 pm to loogaroo
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They have never ever ever shown up to vote in the percentage alleged as this year.
You mean they ALL went out and voted for a racist old white man more than the Obama?
Even worse when you consider that Biden got more votes than Obama in other fraud-infested liberal shitholes such as:
- Florida (24% more Dem votes in ‘20 than ‘08)
- Idaho (21% more Dem votes in ‘20)
- South Carolina (27% more Dem votes in ‘20)
- Texas (49% more Dem votes in ‘20)
- Alaska (24% more Dem votes in ‘20)
Pretty crazy, since nationwide Biden only had about 17% more votes than Obama in ‘08...
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:13 pm to the808bass
quote:
50% of the population lives in 143 counties
You're a good poster but I think the comparison that's a head scratcher is how Obama ostensibly won all the counties Biden did and way more but still had less votes than Biden (and I get it there are more voters but that wouldn't appear to make up the difference).
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:14 pm to Obtuse1
The vote increase can be related to the fact you had a month to vote and a lot of new voters entered with the get out the vote stuff. Plus, Biden was a better candidate than Hillary from a personality perspective.
Fraud was a concern because of how shady everything seemed. Fox calls Arizona early and swing states stop counting votes at the same time. Plus all the President only ballots, plus we were told this would take weeks to count all the votes. The system allows people to vote multiple times because we saw examples.
All Americans need to trust a secure and fair election. You need some validation that every voter gets 1 vote and you can 100% validate every voter is legal. It is one thing that will help unite the country but it will not happen
Fraud was a concern because of how shady everything seemed. Fox calls Arizona early and swing states stop counting votes at the same time. Plus all the President only ballots, plus we were told this would take weeks to count all the votes. The system allows people to vote multiple times because we saw examples.
All Americans need to trust a secure and fair election. You need some validation that every voter gets 1 vote and you can 100% validate every voter is legal. It is one thing that will help unite the country but it will not happen
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:14 pm to AUX3
quote:
Data can be summarized a lot of different ways
That’s kind of my point.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:15 pm to Obtuse1
I forgot to add I made connected the two images from Wiki to easily compare 2016 to 2018 for the post I made on the election board that is now gone.
If you look at it Biden got a larger percentage of the vote in ALL 50 states and DC compared to Hillary. Biden's votes didn't come miraculously from blue states, states with high mail in ballots or states that used Dominion. Biden's votes came from all the states. The EV vote pivoted in ~40k and the discussion becomes much more granular but I think it is easy to see Biden's ~23% increase in popular vote came from all over the country and not from just areas in question.
If you look at it Biden got a larger percentage of the vote in ALL 50 states and DC compared to Hillary. Biden's votes didn't come miraculously from blue states, states with high mail in ballots or states that used Dominion. Biden's votes came from all the states. The EV vote pivoted in ~40k and the discussion becomes much more granular but I think it is easy to see Biden's ~23% increase in popular vote came from all over the country and not from just areas in question.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:17 pm to oldskule
Well no shite but it doesn’t matter. I just hope I get a bottom bunk at the camp.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:18 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:
You're a good poster but I think the comparison that's a head scratcher is how Obama ostensibly won all the counties Biden did and way more but still had less votes than Biden (and I get it there are more voters but that wouldn't appear to make up the difference).
The same way Trump won 38 fewer counties in 2020 than 2016, but had 11 million more votes.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:20 pm to Hidden Tiger
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to get the most overall votes all time while also winning the fewest counties of all time
Don’t forget losing 19 of 20 bellwether counties
Losing 23/23 down ballot toss ups
Losing more % of votes to nearly every demographic (not white males though
) But the biggest tell is Vegas. Those billion dollar casinos and books weren’t built by people that get it wrong very often. Look what the odds were around 10:00pm election night. Biden’s win was a statistical miracle
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