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re: Mike DeWine vetoes ban on transition-related care for minors and boys on girls teams

Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125754 posts
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:41 pm to
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The difference is if there’s a victim. Legislating morality without a clear victim is a problem.


There’s a clear victim. Quit the charade. You don’t have any moral force behind your argument. You just prefer your position.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33445 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 1:40 am to
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Mike DeWine

But hes more conservative than Trump

You know the guy that got Roe overturned in just 4 years
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24153 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 6:53 am to
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How much power do you want to give a state?


The power to stop obvious child abuse seems well within the lines.

And these scumbags aren't doctors.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26173 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:04 am to
I see the post title and the first thing that pops in my head is that Governor doesn't have a lick of common sense or is morally void.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:08 am to
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There’s a clear victim


Yep, this is simply adults preying on children.

Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
67649 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:09 am to
It is extremely rare for a child with gender dysphoria or similar issues to receive any transition treatment. There’s pretty rigid protocol and therapy beforehand.


Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4086 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:26 am to
when you suggest that trump run as a new party, people jump in and say that only splits the votes and elects democrats. so you keep the republican party together and elect people like mike dewine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:28 am to
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It is extremely rare for a child with gender dysphoria or similar issues to receive any transition treatment.


The parent should lose custody of any kid transitioned. Theyre not fit to parent
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6202 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:28 am to
Mike DeWine, should step down as governor, since he doesn't have a basic grasp of right and wrong.

This is in line with, Ketanji Jackson, saying that she can't define: Woman - since she isn't a biologist.

People that speak in such terms should not be trusted.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 8:32 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125754 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:00 am to
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There’s pretty rigid protocol and therapy beforehand.


This isn’t true.

Go check out Reddit and you can find the playbook for a kid to transition.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7990 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:16 am to
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Innocent? They want it.

Become an activist and do interventions if you want to do something about it. You’ll never be able to keep up with the amount of idiots out there.

Again - you can’t legislate morality. Otherwise you’re a progressive.

Just curious…If parents were prostituting their children out to pedophiles would you be okay with that if the child agreed to it? Because that is where your logic takes us.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30923 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:22 am to
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Prolly still illegal in Ohio for a kid to get a tattoo.

....as it should be.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50992 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:29 am to
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I did a interviews with him
Tell me that you really aren't a reporter without telling me you really aren't a reporter.
Posted by JoeyPeeps76
Member since Dec 2023
73 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:32 am to
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I happen to think government shouldn’t legislate morality


So no laws at all then
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 11:45 am to
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I happen to think government shouldn’t legislate morality


So no laws at all then


Exactly.

All laws are based on mores.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5207 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 1:08 pm to
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Statutory rape is a huge example, because a child is not seen as able to make good decisions in that area


That’s a bit different IMO. I don’t know of many situations where an entire family supports statutory rape and a doctor agrees it’s ok.


Doesn't matter. The law does not allow for parental exceptions becuase if a nutjob set of parents exist (and believe me there are a few of them out there) no justification they can come up with is good enough to allow their child to engage in sexual congress with an adult. It causes irreperable harm to the child.

The same holds true with the vast majority* of these modern sex change and puberty blocking cases for the exact same reasons. Messing with a child's reproductive organs and the hormones and emotions related to those organs causes irreperable harm that is just not justifiable.

*The vast majority being the cases where a child's gender or sex is voluntarily changed due to social or political pressures, not sitautions where a child might be born deformed.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22969 posts
Posted on 12/30/23 at 1:12 pm to
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I voted for a democrat governor out of protest. I knew he'd win but I couldn't cast my ballot for him. I am a straight R ticket too.


Not a straight ticket if you voted for even one democrat. Unless you vote for all democrats. But you didn't say that though.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24153 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 6:58 am to
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It is extremely rare for a child with gender dysphoria or similar issues to receive any transition treatment. There’s pretty rigid protocol and therapy beforehand.


"Gender affirming care" is sickening abuse in all forms
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23231 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:40 am to
DeWine looks like Norm, from Something About Mary, grew up and got a job

Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
Member since May 2021
2740 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:02 pm to
Bump to say the house and senate both voted to override the veto.

The bill passes.
This post was edited on 1/24/24 at 2:27 pm
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