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re: Michigan Plans to Start Taxing Cars Based on Distances Driven
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:45 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:45 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
Driving on public roads is a privilege, not a right.
If you don’t like how the government operates its transportation network, stay on private roads.
If you don’t like how the government operates its transportation network, stay on private roads.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:46 pm to reddy tiger
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If you drive a ICE vehicle, the amount of tax you pay is based on fuel consumption, which is a reasonable analog to “distance driven”. I don’t see the problem here. How do you propose we pay for highway maintenance.
But the tax on gas would be there, so you are getting double taxed.
And you want to pay for maintenance? Tax the heavier evs.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:48 pm to reddy tiger
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I don’t see the problem here. How do you propose we pay for highway maintenance.
You’re in the “ok, it’s happening but it’s for your own good” phase of leftist thinking.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 12:58 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
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GPS devices
This will not be used to track mileage.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:00 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
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significantly diminishing how much states make through the gas tax.
So, one of the key carrots for buying an EV is now going away?
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:02 pm to Pelican fan99
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You seriously are ok with the government tracking where you are going?
You say this as if they can't already very easily do this
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:03 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
quote:Kind of already are. The more miles you drive, the more gas you buy then the more taxes you pay. But as to the article, how will they know? You have to submit an odometer reading each year you buy a tag?
Michigan Plans to Start Taxing Cars Based on Distances Driven
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:07 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
Trying to tax on this is very fricking stupid.


Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:11 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
Why don’t they come up with a way to estimate the # of miles driven based on the energy the car consumes? Oh wait, ICE vehicles already have that? Then figure it out for EV
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:22 pm to teke184
quote:You know, I'm thinking someone with an EV told me he pays extra for their car tag each year because they don't pay gas tax which is supposed to go to MDOT for road and bridges maintenance. I'll look it up. He has a TESLA (suv maybe) and is conservative as anyone I know. Didn't ask his motive for buying one other than his owning a couple Chic-Fi-Las.
Trying to tax on this is very fricking stupid.
ETA - Yep § 27-19-21. Additional annual tax on electric vehicles; “electric vehicles” defined $150 per year.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:28 pm to Diamondawg
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You know, I'm thinking someone with an EV told me he pays extra for their car tag each year because they don't pay gas tax
Yes, in GA, I pay $200 flat fee a year for the tag on my wife's LEAF that compensates for the lost taxes from the gasoline the state would otherwise get. Michigan is trying to defraud people.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:28 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
quote:Your title is fake news.
Michigan Plans to Start
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:54 pm to reddy tiger
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How do you propose we pay for highway maintenance.
How about you and the rest of your dumbass progressive brethren put your money where your mouths are and fund these things you’re saying everyone needs
Posted on 9/18/23 at 1:57 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
We’re already being taxed with the price of gas.
I’m sure many low income folks have to make hard decisions about how many miles they can afford to pay for
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:02 pm to LSURussian
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quote:
Michigan Plans to Start
Your title is fake news.
I pulled it straight from MSN.com so go bitch at them.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:02 pm to reddy tiger
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How do you propose we pay for highway maintenance.
We don’t
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:22 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
Great. Even MORE Michigan-refugees moving south.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:26 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
Why not tax by weight? Heaver vehicles do more...wait, never mind...
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:05 pm to reddy tiger
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which is a reasonable analog to “distance driven”.
My truck gets 16 mpg, my honda gets 38 mpg, explain to me how that works out for my tax bill on 100 miles driven in both cars. Both are total BS.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:13 pm to Ghost of Bob Horner
You are barking up the wrong tree. The government already taxes that way by having a fuel tax. This tax is a restructuring to account for the fact that EVs are not paying taxes to support the infrastructure.
In short, this law helps close the loophole whereby ICE drivers were subsidizing EV drivers. Shouldn’t this board be thrilled with that?
In short, this law helps close the loophole whereby ICE drivers were subsidizing EV drivers. Shouldn’t this board be thrilled with that?
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