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re: Michael Rothschild says movies like Sound Of Freedom are the result of moral panic....

Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by Monahans
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 3:57 pm to
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That does sound like the case for some of these critics. And look I really like Caviezel as an actor and may check out the film sometime but I think some he deserves some of the blame for the misrepresentation and confusion when he is out there blabbing Q conspiracies in one breath and the next promoting his film that contains some truthful elements of the Q conspiracy.

This is why I wonder if Q is a psyop. Perhaps "they're" hoping to discredit the child sex trafficking claims altogether by associating them with unhinged and paranoid narratives that they know are a bridge too far for the average person who pays little attention to any of it. (Vast majority of Americans.) Caviezel speaks in both length and detail about adrenochrome, for example.
Posted by Monahans
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:00 pm to
Please note, although I consider the Q narratives to be unhinged and paranoid I am not saying they aren't true. Im not saying they are true either.

If anything, if the Q narratives are true, discussing them in an unhinged and paranoid manner would be entirely appropriate.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:05 pm to
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When they discuss sex trafficking, how are the defining it?

Are these people that are being kidnapped off the street, or are these runaways, drug-addicts, that are being pimped out?

Both are bad, obviously, but different parts of the spectrum.


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Posted by lake chuck fan
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:06 pm to
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Seems Rothschild is convinced the Sound Of Freedom is right wing propaganda and unsuspecting Americans need to be warned all this child sex trafficking moral panic is being drummed up for political purposes, totally overblown


We've learned by now to believe the opposite of what they say. That's all that needs to be said.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:06 pm to
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Perhaps "they're" hoping to discredit the child sex trafficking claims altogether by associating them with unhinged and paranoid narratives that they know are a bridge too far for the average person who pays little attention to any of it


Your average person who thinks Q is nuttier than squirrel shite believes human trafficking exists. They just don't believe a particular type of it (that is associated with Q) does.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:07 pm to
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Wasn’t it filmed 5 years ago? I guess Trump is time traveling again.


What's Trump got to do with Mexican Cartels and their sex trafficking business?

I think Trump truly wanted to seal the southern border and stop drug and human traffickers but the 2016 R Congress and Senate did not share his vision for America and they certainly didn't want a big beautiful southern border wall.....but $120 billion to Ukraine is no problem.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:12 pm to
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Your average person who thinks Q is nuttier than squirrel shite believes human trafficking exists. They just don't believe a particular type of it (that is associated with Q) does.

Of course people believe human trafficking exists.

What has gotten politicized is to what extent? I mean it does seem to me that its convenient for pedophiles and traffickers to have these outlandish Q narratives attached to the trafficking accusations.

Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:22 pm to
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When fake news is actually doing 99% of it?


He is the star of the film dude. What he says publicly, especially given the subject matter, leaves an certa8n impression. Hell he seems to believe himself that the film and Ballard's work gives credence to the Q conspiracies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:28 pm to
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mean it does seem to me that its convenient for pedophiles and traffickers to have these outlandish Q narratives attached to the trafficking accusations.

I said yesterday I think the most likely explanation for Q is a psyop, as well, to ensnare conservatives and marginalize them by promoting insanity. We're not in disagreement.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:33 pm to
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I think some he deserves some of the blame for the misrepresentation and confusion when he is out there blabbing Q conspiracies in one breath and the next promoting his film that contains some truthful elements of the Q conspiracy.


Critics could easily have said, "While Caviezel spouts (insert whatever here) none of that was in the film." Instead, that's all most have talked about.

If I didn't know better you'd think he did it to troll lefty critics into posting stories that had been written without having watched the movie just to out them as being liars.
Posted by ELVIS U
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:35 pm to
I'm noticing his last name has a strange ring to it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:45 pm to
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Critics could easily have said, "While Caviezel spouts (insert whatever here) none of that was in the film." Instead, that's all most have talked about.

Because the primary audience (and this is clear from all the threads on here) overlaps heavily with the same population that promotes Q theories relating to trafficking to this day.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:49 pm to
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Because the primary audience (and this is clear from all the threads on here) overlaps heavily with the same population that promotes Q theories relating to trafficking to this day.


And yet...I went.

I never once opened that Q thread the whole time it was here, and the last thing I wanted to see was Caviezel going full religious zealot on me for two hours.

Neither happened, and it's ok to admit that. Why can't professional critics?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:53 pm to
Don’t know him from Adam but anyone named Rothschild screaming about moral panic over protecting kids sure seems like someone is over the target and getting a lot of flak.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Neither happened, and it's ok to admit that. Why can't professional critics?


Because you can’t continue to get inside access if you shed light on shite powerful people are doing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 4:58 pm to
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Because you can’t continue to get inside access if you shed light on shite powerful people are doing.


And there it is.
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 4:59 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:00 pm to
Rothschild is grifting about QAnon. He’s selling a book. That’s his raison d’être.

If we started throat-punching these soy figs, society would be a better place.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7370 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:11 pm to
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Critics could easily have said, "While Caviezel spouts (insert whatever here) none of that was in the film." Instead, that's all most have talked about.


I agree that seems like the fair thing to do.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7370 posts
Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:17 pm to
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you shed light on shite powerful people are doing.


Unless I'm missing the point of his post and as far as I understand it...."powerful people" doing bad things was not part the film. The critics weren't trying to endear themselves to the adenochrome sucking elites....lol. They were just being lazy and looking for an angle to trash the film because Caviezel is acting like a wierdo lately.
Posted by homesicktiger
High altitude hell
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 7/10/23 at 5:43 pm to
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How could anyone, regardless of their politics, denounce a movie raising awareness of child trafficking?


We should ask SFP and Nurse.

eta ... Guess I should've known he was already in here trying to deflect shots on target.
This post was edited on 7/10/23 at 5:48 pm
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