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re: Mexican Soldiers Disarm Two U.S. Military Soldiers on the U.S. / Mexico Border

Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:00 pm to
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Field Artillery is a branch undergoing a search for a mission. We just don't fire FA missions that much anymore. The American public and international media require us to execute perfect, precision strikes with no collateral damage.

FA isn't the tool for that.

I'm just wondering why they're sending red legs on patrol. MP's or infantry units should be out there.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:02 pm to
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I'm just wondering why they're sending red legs on patrol. MP's or infantry units should be out there.


Too busy policing the world in Europe, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, et al. FA battalions outside of limited applications in Syria and Iraq are underutilized.
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:04 pm to
Artillery units should be fully able to do this mission. Probably better than an MP unit.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72976 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:06 pm to
Our guys need to be on horses down there heavily armed.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:06 pm to
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That is our Apache pilot who got out as a company grade
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:17 pm to
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This wouldn’t happen with a wall.


LOL. The linked article says there IS a wall there. But it is well North of the River. The Army patrol was South of the wall but still in US territory.

I don't know how much water the Rio Grande has in it this time of year, but seems like you would know you were crossing it. Maybe Mexico thinks we have ceded all land South of the wall to them?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:22 pm to
If only there were some type of obvious marker on the border to eliminate any possibility of confusion...
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:23 pm to
Who is upvoting this thread? This is an absolute embarrassment.

Got cucked in our own country is not a good thing.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12075 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:23 pm to
I hear you, but no one who Is for putting soldiers on the border is doing it to start an armed conflict with the Mexican army.

Its a serious frickup by the Mexicans for sure, and they need to account for it. But I dont want an unecessary shootout. Not unless their army starts escorting refugees to/across the border, which I seriously doubt would ever occur.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:27 pm to
This would not have happened had we had some sort of "demarkation barrier" in place...lets call it a WALL for lack of another term.

Obama had a "red line in the sand"...I want a fricking 40 ft wall with razor wire that has been electrified to a deadly level.
This post was edited on 4/20/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:29 pm to


We all know he would have been found waist deep in grenade pins, damn it all!
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:30 pm to
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Artillery units should be fully able to do this mission. Probably better than an MP unit.



Obviously not
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:31 pm to
“The better part of Valour, is Discretion; in the which better part, I haue saued my life”
Falstaff - Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part I
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:31 pm to
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This is absolutely disgraceful. Those U.S. Army Soldiers were armed and allowed Mexican nationals to not only approach them, but also disarm them. Their commander needs to be relieved.



What a shite show. They didn't even radio anyone?
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:32 pm to
Disgraceful.

If the army is no longer capable of its primary mission of armed defense of our border against an invading force, it should be eliminated and the job turned over to citizen militias.
Posted by Port Royal
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
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Their commander needs to be relieved.



Not just relieved. Article 92, Derelict in the performance of duties.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72976 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
The barbarians are already within the gates and waging war on the US government. It is a cancer spreading from within now.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:34 pm to
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What a shite show. They didn't even radio anyone?



Apparently they had so little situational awareness that they didn't even have time to hit a panic button on their sat phone
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:36 pm to
We've effectively ceeded all land south of a line from Pueblo to El Paso to Round Rock to Houston to them.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 4/20/19 at 12:36 pm to
Exactly
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