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re: Men voting pro life
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:55 pm to OWLFAN86
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:55 pm to OWLFAN86
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I'll agree to only let women vote on abortion if you agree only people that pay income taxes can vote on Govt. spending
^ This.
And if that were to happen and there was a women only election to settle the abortion issue, it would most likely mot go the leftists way. Turns out abortion isn’t as popular with women as leftists believe.
51% of women consider themselves to be pro-life.
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:56 pm to Newrow
It’s the pro life part of your subject, but maybe you think a fetus is just body tissue that only magically becomes a life when the woman gives birth.
The govt overreach was what the Supreme Court did to 10th amendment when it created a right to kill unborn life using the 14th amendment which was ratified 100 years before Roe created this “right”. Roe and subsequent rulings enforced a long federal judicial process to make changes to state abortion laws including ones based on current medical science and even ones wanting to regulate abortion clinics in same manner as outpatient or other medical clinics performing medical procedures. This ruling corrects Supreme Court’s overreach with Roe.
I am sure it’s adjustment now that you can’t just look the other way and believe your kid getting aborted is 100% on the woman and has nothing to do with your indirect or even direct pressure, but this was always the case regardless of what the men who wrote Roe said about it being 100% on the woman.
The govt overreach was what the Supreme Court did to 10th amendment when it created a right to kill unborn life using the 14th amendment which was ratified 100 years before Roe created this “right”. Roe and subsequent rulings enforced a long federal judicial process to make changes to state abortion laws including ones based on current medical science and even ones wanting to regulate abortion clinics in same manner as outpatient or other medical clinics performing medical procedures. This ruling corrects Supreme Court’s overreach with Roe.
I am sure it’s adjustment now that you can’t just look the other way and believe your kid getting aborted is 100% on the woman and has nothing to do with your indirect or even direct pressure, but this was always the case regardless of what the men who wrote Roe said about it being 100% on the woman.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 12:47 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:59 pm to Newrow
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I’m very surprised at the OT for being staunchly pro life
You have to keep in mind that only about 10% of them have a deep moral issue with abortion, 10% care about the constitutional aspect of it, and 80% really only care about the left taking the L.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:02 pm to TheIndulger
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Would you be cool with the states deciding whether to allow murder?
Like abortion?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:02 pm to TheIndulger
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Would you be cool with the states deciding whether to allow murder?
With regards to abortion?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:04 pm to brgfather129
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You have to keep in mind that only about 10% of them have a deep moral issue with abortion, 10% care about the constitutional aspect of it, and 80% really only care about the left taking the L.
Yea, man. 80% of pro-lifers are only pro-life because it means the left takes an L. If the left was pro-life we would be all about murder. Idiot.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:06 pm to Newrow
“Muh state rights”
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:07 pm to TheIndulger
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Would you be cool with the states deciding whether to allow murder?
They already do. Go murder someone, you’ll face murder charges in that state. You’ll stand trial in a state court and serve time in a state prison.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:08 pm to Newrow
States’ rights. Anything that gives the federal government more power is always bad. Anything that transfers power from the federal government to the states is always good.
The constitution was meant to limit the federal government.
The constitution was meant to limit the federal government.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:16 pm to caro81
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“Muh state rights”
Why should some bureaucrats from California be able to cast a vote on what is legal is Mississippi? Why should some bureaucrat from Alabama be able to cast a vote on what is legal in Massachusetts?
Should bureaucrats from Iran be able to cast a vote on what is legal in Israel?
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:31 pm to Newrow
That’s a child, a human being, in that womb they are killing….they can’t fight for themselves I gladly stand beside many others and fight for their lives….we won a battle today.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:32 pm to Newrow
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It seems that most people hate government intervention until it misaligns with their views though.
Of course they do. No one gets all upset in arms until it offends them.
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Why are men still able to vote on this type of shite. Ive never been pregnant or had a uterus. Why the government overreach?
This is where we hit a slippery slope. What if the father wants the child. He was 50% a part of making it. If there are no health concerns with the mother or baby, and it was consensual sex and he is willing to take full custody, why should the woman get to decide that's not his right. It goes both ways.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:42 pm to Newrow
For fricks sake, is this the poli board 2.0?! Why can’t we have light hearted threads on here anymore? Every single thread in the first page and probably the second is political.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:52 pm to Newrow
Ever heard of the 10th amendment?
Nowhere in the constitution was the right to an abortion ever granted. Roe v Wade was an unconstitutional overreach thay gave the federal government powers they should never have had. It always should have been a state by state decision
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The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Nowhere in the constitution was the right to an abortion ever granted. Roe v Wade was an unconstitutional overreach thay gave the federal government powers they should never have had. It always should have been a state by state decision
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:00 am to Newrow
You idiot; this is literally taking away federal government intervention. We are anti Fed boi here in the OT
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:02 am to Newrow
There is difference, I don’t agree with murder. I believe in human rights that begin with a heartbeat. The gov should protect kids from being killed not fund the killing of kids.
This is not a religious issue for me either, it’s just common sense as a human to believe that the heartbeat means the baby has its own set of rights that should include not being killed.
Will crime go up bc of this? Yes. But I don’t think we should kill babies to avoid crime, we need to figure out a better way than that!
This is not a religious issue for me either, it’s just common sense as a human to believe that the heartbeat means the baby has its own set of rights that should include not being killed.
Will crime go up bc of this? Yes. But I don’t think we should kill babies to avoid crime, we need to figure out a better way than that!
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:03 am to LSUBoo
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I'm a man. I am anti abortion. I am also pro choice. I, most importantly, am firmly behind anything that removes authority from the federal government when it comes to personal decisions.
This x 1000000
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:14 am to fallguy_1978
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Roe was the government overreach part of the equation.
Federal government overreach = uncool
State government overreach into the personal liberties of individuals = way cool
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:15 am to Jay Are
Jay Are in for the shite hot take with zero basis in jurisprudence.
Point out where the Tenth is superseded by a constitutional amendment.
I'll wait.
Point out where the Tenth is superseded by a constitutional amendment.
I'll wait.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 12:16 am
Posted on 6/25/22 at 12:18 am to Jay Are
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into the personal liberties of individuals
The extent to which you vile, fallen people equate abortion to any mundane act of liberty like going to church, buying what you want to buy, etc is despicable
stop with the ridiculous euphemisms
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