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re: Memphis Police officer murdered by youth free on no bail.

Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:06 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

And let’s not forget about the car theft, Mr. Strict Property Rights Enforcement Guy.

Non violent property crime is hardly something that would scare me bail-wise.

And I'm fine with him being prosecuted for it. Notice when I said "my policy preference is that it shouldn't be" was only applied to the gun charge.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 6:07 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:09 pm to
Car theft while armed with an automatic weapon is not “non-violent property crime”

What would’ve happened had the owner walked up? We see what happened when the cops rolled up.

Is armed robbery a violent crime?

The gun is there for a reason.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Car theft while armed with an automatic weapon is not “non-violent property crime”

There is no violence in either.

Now had he used that gun in a robbery/carjacking? Different situation entirely. THAT is an example of a crime of violence. Whole different ballgame.

quote:

Is armed robbery a violent crime?

Yes, and an entirely different situation.


quote:

The gun is there for a reason.

You want to prosecute potential crimes that weren't even committed? Think about the implications.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:22 pm to
the guy that killed the cop was out on no bail after being caught in a stolen car with a modified pistol making it fully automatic less than 30 days ago.

are you saying the judge and DA did the right thing by releasing him on a cashless bail?

is that what you are saying? because that's what it sounds like you are saying.

it also sounds like you calling the people that think there should be some amount of bail for weapon charges "bootlickers".

Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
1349 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

Naw, ****. I can be pro limited government and also anti-“bail reform.”


Lol. You've made it well known of your indifference to police misconduct.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

are you saying the judge and DA did the right thing by releasing him on a cashless bail?

Yes.

In no way does that reflect on any opinion of future criminal actions, also.

Like was said in the 4A thread: those who give up liberty for security deserve neither. Living in a free society isn't always easy and has costs.

quote:

it also sounds like you calling the people that think there should be some amount of bail for weapon charges "bootlickers".

Not bootlickers. I think they pick and choose when they support things like limited government.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:29 pm to
this guy is dead because the legal system failed him.



this is the guy you are say should be allowed on the street with zero bail.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:35 pm to
Why wasn't the POS identified in the linked article? He isn't a minor.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 6:36 pm
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12674 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:44 pm to
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You want to prosecute potential crimes that weren't even committed? Think about the implications.


New York State is. Doesn’t seem to be a lot of nationwide legal community uproar over that.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5915 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

quote:
Pointing out the inability to know if we are backing the blue is not melting. It's pointing out hypocrisy


Pointing out the idiocy of no bail policies isn’t “backing the blue.” It’s backing society and order.


He's merely a contrarian troll a la cmylilwillie.
Other than maybe Dex, I know of no one who would be cool with any person or any law enforcement being frickn ambushed by a thug that should not be on the street but for judges and attorney's that SFP obviously supports.

Frick that guy GIF here. SMH
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26890 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 6:59 pm to
So being armed during the course of a crime does not increase penalties?

I believe it does in some cases.



quote:

Now had he used that gun in a robbery/carjacking?



Used it how? Guns are rarely used during armed robbery.

And you have made it clear you disagree with some laws, and don’t care if they are enforced, yet you nitpick on other laws that you agree with to come to the interpretation you like.



Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
2243 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:32 pm to
How about you judge each situation on it's own merit? Like you should judge people.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:38 pm to
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I think they pick and choose when they support things


This is exactly what you do.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79792 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:41 pm to
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I"m just trying to enforce intellectual consistency.


Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3369 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 7:44 pm to
quote:


How is zero bail defensible in that situation?




OH, SFP has found a way... apparently the ONLY reason to impose bail is if the person poses a flight risk, and since this murderer had never missed a prior court date, he posed no flight risk and therefore was entitled to zero bail for his charges of armed car robbery and carrying an illegal automatic weapon.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131444 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:11 pm to
way back in the day long before I was born, my grandparents lived across the street from the school where the shooting happened.

as soon as plans were announced that the school was going to be built, they sold that house.

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Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15785 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:32 pm to
frick every piece of shite that voted for this shite.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56421 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

SlowFlowPro
Okay, you're super unhinged, man. Sure, sheeple do sheeple shite sometimes, but people getting pissed about freeing a cop killer with no bail does not mean they "support oppressive LEO/prosecutorial practices"


You seem unwell. Seriously.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
423213 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:00 pm to
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I know of no one who would be cool with any person or any law enforcement being frickn ambushed b

Nobody has said they are OK with this. Stop making shite up.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
423213 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:01 pm to
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So being armed during the course of a crime does not increase penalties?

Potentially for a conviction. He hasn't been convicted yet, though.

He's only been arrested and is presumed innocent for the purposes of that stage of the proceeding.

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