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Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:02 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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This is exactly what you do.
Incorrect. My position is clear and has been stated multiple times ITT.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:03 pm to MemphisGuy
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apparently the ONLY reason to impose bail is if the person poses a flight risk, and since this murderer had never missed a prior court date, he posed no flight risk and therefore was entitled to zero bail for his charges of armed car robbery and carrying an illegal automatic weapon.
What do you think the purpose of bail is, exactly?
Are you using bail to pre-judge a case and impose penalties on a person prior to conviction?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
how many felonies does a dude need to be accused of while in possession of what is basically a "machine gun pistol" before you think it is acceptable for the courts to apply cash bail?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Nobody has said they are OK with this.
You are defending, rather vigorously, the very policy that led directly to this happening. So yeah, you are giving your tacit approval of this.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What do you think the purpose of bail is, exactly?
To keep bad people in jail until their trials.
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Are you using bail to pre-judge a case and impose penalties on a person prior to conviction?
Nope. I'm using bail to keep them behind bars until their trial so they don't do more bad things... like kill cops.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:05 pm to MemphisGuy
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You are defending, rather vigorously, the very policy that led directly to this happening.
Discussing bail has nothing to do with discussing a future murder. Nothing.
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So yeah, you are giving your tacit approval of this.
Literally retarded
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:06 pm to MemphisGuy
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To keep bad people in jail until their trials.
No
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Nope. I'm using bail to keep them behind bars until their trial so they don't do more bad things... like kill cops.
That's literally the definition of prejudging their case.
I seriously doubt that you do this across the board. What's the point bail at all? For anyone accused of a crime?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Literally retarded
And yet exactly what you are doing.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:07 pm to MemphisGuy
it's going to be interesting to see if Mulroy's team asked for bail and which judge let the guy go.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:07 pm to Rebel
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how many felonies does a dude need to be accused of while in possession of what is basically a "machine gun pistol" before you think it is acceptable for the courts to apply cash bail?
Again what is the purpose of bail?
You know what you're arguing for when you prejudge the case, right?
Apply this to Trump or J6er and prejudge their guilt.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What's the point bail at all?
the point of bail is two fold. - to ensure the accused shows up for trial and/or protect the citizens from the accused.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What's the point bail at all? For anyone accused of a crime?
You tell me. Apparently your thought is arrest them, tell them to show up in court and send them on their merry little way. To do anything any different, regardless of the crime that they are accused of committing, is prejudging their case.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:10 pm to MemphisGuy
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And yet exactly what you are doing.
You're making leap of "logic" that would make a Marxist blush
I'm only speaking about bail. Those comments only apply to bail.
I've already even said that if he had been accused of it of violent crime initially then that definitely increases the chances of a high bail being proper. I made no comment that he deserves bail on this accusation of murdering a policeman also.
So yeah you have no logic and are trying to attach arguments that make no sense whatsoever to the words I've actually said
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:10 pm to MemphisGuy
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Apparently your thought is arrest them, tell them to show up in court and send them on their merry little way.
That is literally what bail is for. Literally
I want to know what you think bail is for so we can apply that to other cases with other acute criminals
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Apply this to Trump or J6er and prejudge their guilt.
were the J6ers offered bail?
i know you are socially awkward and somewhere on the spectrum but defending a cop killer isn't a good look.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Apply this to Trump or J6er and prejudge their guilt.
Well, given that some of them were indeed held without bail...
And also, to my knowledge, none of them were charged with armed automobile theft and possession of an automatic weapon. They were charged with interfering with a governmental proceeding, right?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:14 pm to MemphisGuy
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and possession of an automatic weapon.
or any weapons for that matter.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:15 pm to Rebel
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the point of bail is two fold. - to ensure the accused shows up for trial and/or protect the citizens from the accused.
So an accused defendant accused of multiple felonies in at least 3 jurisdictions should be denied bail, right?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 9:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I want to know what you think bail is for so we can apply that to other cases with other acute criminals
Given that this thread is specifically about a Memphis police officer murdered by a criminal released on no cash bail, and NOT about the January 6th protestors... I fail to see the need to entertain your other hypotheticals.
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