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re: Memo to all Christians who are struggling with the decision to vote for Trump

Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:17 am to
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5489 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:17 am to
I'd phrase it this way, the libertarian is a gay covid nazi who wants the state to mandate your status in a pandemic.

The democrat is for murdering babies at every opportunity.

The greens are worse.

Trump is the least evil. He's personally got issues, but his polices as a whole are beneficial to Christians, the other options are far far worse.

If you don't vote, thats mathematically giving Harris half a vote, so you can't just sit out.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10750 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:21 am to
quote:

God is omniscient and sovereign over all things


Prove it
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22112 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:24 am to
It's only four years and three years until the next cycle begins. DJT will not be the last president.
Posted by Peruviantiger
Member since Nov 2017
110 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:32 am to
I used to live in Peru, and there voting is not a right but a law. If one doesn’t vote they get a fine. Like most years, the presidential candidates were not very good choices. I asked a friend of mine, how does a Christian vote with a clean conscience with such horrible options? He replied, “the both are devils, you have to vote for the known devil because you know what they are going to.”

As a Christian, I certainly wish we had a candidate better morals. However, as an American I can not sit by (not that I would) and be idle.

In this election the choice is CLEAR as to whom I will vote for. We have one who has been president before, and who did nothing of what the globalist agenda sung from the roof tops, as compared to one who is a globalist Marxist puppet that wants to kill babies and take away our rights, in addition to, we really don’t know how far left she would take us.

Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
4910 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:38 am to
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Who’s to say there should even be prisons. Who are we to cast the first stone. God forgives murderes and rapists, so why can’t he forgive a sleazy old man who just really enjoys teen beauty pageants? He’s the ideal representation of Christ on earth. Are you too good for Jesus?
Typical liberal projection.

Which begs the question…have you molested more or less than 5 little boys?

fricking pedo…….
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7027 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:47 am to
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What is the alternative if not Trump, for a Christian?


Not sure, even Pope Francis who is liberal leaning said not to vote Kamala due to her stance of Abortion.

Yes Trump has flaws, yes he lived a rick playboy life. Though I think as he got older he life has changed. He is a huge supporter of Israel, anti-abortion, pro-family, wants to stay out of wars. All these things are very good and should outweigh his past.

I don't think you can call yourself a christian and vote for someone who is actively pushing sex changes and abortion.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
1253 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:52 am to
Staying home per foo man, God told him to
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87427 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:54 am to
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FooManChoo


u are a major cuck and i am putting your arse on the cuck list since you are basically voting for kamala by sitting out being a chickenshit coward in not fighting for this country and what is right
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4341 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 6:56 am to
Major part of being a Christian is understanding yourself and everyone else are flawed. If you repent and do your best not to commit sin you're doing all you can. Meanwhile the left celebrates sin in the street and demand we accept and embrace it.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13370 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 7:00 am to
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Typical liberal projection.

Which begs the question…have you molested more or less than 5 little boys?

fricking pedo…….

Yeah, that guy's response was so retarded as to not even warrant a response. Much like Squirrel's. Just idiotic response designed to "shock". Not worth the effort to respond to, until the response is derision and ridicule.
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
2837 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 7:03 am to
Can’t call yourself Christian and vote democrat.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3284 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 7:17 am to
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quote:

God is omniscient and sovereign over all things
Prove it

I can tell you what he would say.

God is omniscient and sovereign over all things because psalm 139 and 147 and 1 John 3 and elsewhere state that God knows everything. We know it is the Truth because it’s in the Bible, and it’s in the Bible because it’s the Truth.

That is despite verses like Genesis 2-3 where God can’t find Adam and Eve, and all the times God has to “go down” to see what people are doing and why (tower of Babel) and he has to send scouts to go find out of people are wicked or righteous (Sodom and Gomorrah), and despite God not knowing that flooding the earth wouldn’t get rid of all sin despite that explicit goal and God experiencing regret (it says he regret his actions meaning he admits he made a mistake and he promised never to do it again with the sign of the rainbow).

Since the Bible says so many different and contradictory things, we get to pick and choose which things we want to believe and get to call that the “Truth” with a capital T.

God is sovereign over all, for instance he created the world, twice! Genesis 1 and Genesis 2! Matthew 10:29-31 says God is sovereign over every little thing. Isaiah 45:7 says God is responsible for everything both good and evil! And we know it’s Truth because the Bible says so.

Let’s ignore God’s fight against the Egyptian gods in Exodus. Let’s ignore how God as the head of the Israelite army loses to the Canaanites of the plains because they have iron chariots. Let’s ignore 2 Kings 3 when Yahweh God loses a battle to the Moab deity Chemosh. Let’s also ignore a bunch of other things that are inconvenient like Deuteronomy 32:8-9 which explicitly describes how Yahweh God is only sovereign over and responsible for Israel and let’s ignore Psalm 82 which implies God is not sovereign over the earth because the end of the Psalm cries out for Yahweh God to inherit all the earth. Let’s also ignore boasts of how much better Yahweh is than all the other gods such as Isaiah 45:5 and Psalm 89 and pretend the Bible says there are no other gods while calling God “Yahweh Sabaoth” (Lord of the Heavenly Army).

There. I think I gave you a pretty good account of FooLaneCraig’s thought process.
This post was edited on 10/19/24 at 11:12 am
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18082 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 7:39 am to
Any Christian struggling right now is a fricking moron. At least trump is leaving abortion for the states to decide. Kamala and Democrats want to legislatively pass shite that will be like roe v wade on steroids.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26817 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 8:09 am to
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That's quite the broad brush you're painting with there.


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Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34589 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 8:42 am to
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That's quite the broad brush you're painting with there.



Yeah, a lot of the people who are, by my imperfect observation, are true Christians but who are abstaining or otherwise forfeiting their votes, are merely laboring over what I deem to be a fundamental misunderstanding of what voting actually is. I think this is a matter left to conscience, even though I disagree vehemently and will actively try to disabuse people of their folly in this regard.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45426 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:29 am to
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Prove it
Are you making such a demand as a Christian or as a non-Christian?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61333 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:35 am to
We are not voting for a pastor of a church. We are voting for a president to lead this country and protect our first amendment rights as Americans.


It’s really really simple, and if anyone who calls themselves a Christian would vote for a politician who actively fights to destroy human life, mutilate children’s bodies, and push agendas to distort God creating us male and female, and God’s natural plan for mankind, OR abstain from voting to allow those people to continue their attack on God, then I seriously have to question whether they’re a Christian or not.


This election and the path they choose will serve as a litmus test to whether they really align themselves with God or whether it’s just a game they’re playing.




Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53153 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:57 am to
Protestants have a very long history of sitting it out or even joining the wrong side, when an Anti-Christian Enemy attacks.

Historical examples abound in this wiki article - when the Ottoman Muslims were savaging Western Europe, the Protestants were either sitting it out or joining the Muslims in attacking Christendom.

Both Protestants and Muslims had a common enemy which both vehemently hated. That enemy? The Roman Catholic Church and all governments that followed that Church.

Trump has prayed like a Jew, he posted a Catholic prayer that prays to an Angel and not Christ, he said "goddamn" and this is Blasphemy, he's probably committed fornication - this is all quite enough for a True Blue Protestant to sit this election out and not vote at all. This inaction is perfectly in line with what Protestantism did when the Muslims savaged Western Europe in the 1500s and 1600s.

I'm not shocked at all that millions of Christians will sit at home and let Harris be POTUS. They think that they are serving God's Will.

Here's the article:

LINK

Posted by bleedpg
Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
Member since Dec 2006
1234 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 10:01 am to
This Christian is voting Trump and straight Republican. I don’t think it’s a Christian issue. I think it’s a liberal versus conservative issue.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18103 posts
Posted on 10/17/24 at 10:07 am to
They are not understanding they will never again have an opportunity for a two party system if Kamala wins. DC will be a state, illegals will be citizens, X will be shut down, guns outlawed the court will be packed and more lawfare on those who oppose them.

Perfection does not occur in mortal man. We do the best we can and ask forgiveness. They crucified Christ and have tried to murder Trump. What else do you need to know.
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