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re: MEMO: HIC Releases the Memo. Link to memo inside
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:26 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:26 am to Jjdoc
Damn. A lot of us had this essentially figured out the day Trump sent out his wiretap Tweet. Go check out the thread after today cools down ( you started it I think ) and it’s highly entertaining .
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:26 am to Wolfhound45
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:27 am to CarolinaGamecock99
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You retarded?
Unnecessary.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:27 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I guess I expected the judges to ask those questions and more importantly question the validity of any and all evidence expect supporting and objective evidence.
you think the judge shouldn't know how the document originated? imagine what police could do against anyone under this scenario
So to me, if poor and highly questionable information can so easily pass through the process, then that's a major problem regardless of who obtained it.
So that tells me that the validity of the information isn't scrutinized so if poor and highly questionable information can get approval, then that doesn't somehow seem any better just because that poor work was done by law enforcement.
And if law enforcement is presenting it to the court, then whatever bias exists, must also exist in the person presenting it, or they're must too incompetent to be presenting it in the first place.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 11:31 am
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:28 am to asurob1
Not really. They were pulled from within the ranks of the organizations.
There is a natural bias to protect your own group. It is why independent oversight is important.
In fact, it is the reason Special Counsels are ever appointed
There is a natural bias to protect your own group. It is why independent oversight is important.
In fact, it is the reason Special Counsels are ever appointed
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:28 am to asurob1
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This is a clear attempt to try to bring Mueller down.
What we are witnessing is tribal warfare where each side will do or say anything to discredit the other side.
The fact that 3 of the 4 people pushing back against Trump were appointed by Trump speaks volumes.
Well, if they broke the rules and have spent the last 1.5 years trying to find a boogieman based on lies and corruption, then yeah, he's going down.
Thats how rules work. Thats how Justice works.
Youre just ignoring the huge elephant in the room to focus on your delusion.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:29 am to asurob1
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This is a clear attempt to try to bring Mueller down.
This was and still is a clear attempt to out a sitting president with lying and cheating and manipulating public trust and opinion, as well as, total abuse of the legal system they are entrusted to protect.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:29 am to GEAUXmedic
The Nunes memo has been released - Axios
LINK
LINK
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:29 am to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:30 am to asurob1
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What we are witnessing is tribal warfare where each side will do or say anything to discredit the other side.
You mean like coordinating leaks to the media and using said media reports and a fake document created for the DNC to obtain FISA warrants?
Or using FISA as cover to spy on a private citizen?
To which are you referring?
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 11:30 am
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:30 am to buckeye_vol
I think you went in a circle.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:30 am to buckeye_vol
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I guess I expected the judges to ask those questions and more importantly question the validity of any and all evidence expect supporting and objective evidence.
So to me, if poor and highly questionable information can so easily pass through the process, then that's a major problem regardless of who obtained it.
Judges rely on affidavits, and the understanding that people who are professionals who might choose to falsify them can go to jail for doing so. This is the procedure in which subpoenas have been issued for decades.
The recourse is, the people responsible for falsifying such information must go to jail.
It's a pretty simple process and has worked well for most of our time as a nation (and in our states).
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:31 am to asurob1
You are being so dishonest now. 
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:32 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Not really. They were pulled from within the ranks of the organizations.
There is a natural bias to protect your own group. It is why independent oversight is important.
In fact, it is the reason Special Counsels are ever appointed
I guess we shall see how this plays out.
But we are now engaging in open warfare in Washington. When all of your law enforcement types (including the ones you appointed) advising you against doing a thing. And you do it anyway. There are going to be far reaching consequences that neither tribe counts on.
This is about to get fun.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:32 am to Jjdoc
Dimwits need to indicate at the beginning that link will be updated rather than anchoring and having people scurrying around trying to provide a link for everyone.
Get your heads out of your asses.
Get your heads out of your asses.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:32 am to a want
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You guys are going to get burned. I tried to tell you.
>Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:32 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Point #4 - If McCabe truly admitted there would be no FISC request without the dossier - holy shite
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:33 am to asurob1
Once you get used to the shade, you don’t want to get in the sunlight.
frick them.
frick them.
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:33 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:33 am to Y.A. Tittle
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the understanding that people who are professionals who might choose to falsify them can go to jail for doing so.
Yeah that doesnt happen. Especially because the court is secret and no one can question the affiants.
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