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re: Meet Heather Shaner. She's a DC Public Defender who has represented 43 J6 defendants

Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:37 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:37 am to
No, he agrees it’s a bad thing. You just have to think exactly like him to be correct. If you agree that it’s a bad thing along with him, he can then show you exactly how to think like him. If you don’t think exactly like him, you’ve got brain rot.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17714 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:39 am to
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your an idiot

Come on man. I feel your energy and all but you just gotta be on guard against this if you know better.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11063 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:40 am to
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This is just how our criminal justice/Police State system works. It's always been something where I try to illuminate this fact on the Law and order types, because they were emotionally invested in the defendants for once. The problem is there is such an emotional and rage filled response that facts can't even be agreed to to start that discussion.

These prosecutions in the Trump prosecutions are perfect examples to show how we are over prosecuted in our criminal justice system is way too powerful and against the original intention of the founders. However partisanship creates brain rot and emotional responses, which is where the discussions have remained

"The problem isn't the corrupt system that I'm a part of, it's the emotional response to that corrupt system."
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:44 am to
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facts can't even be agreed to to start that discussion.
Let's start with the fact our society supposedly provides each citizen with the right to be vigorously defended in a court of law. Lawyers are supposedly bound to deliver this legal right to their clients. Ms Blue hair calling her defendants "schmucks" (yiddish for penises), with a 100% guilty plea rate, obviously does not reach that standard.

Nor does your proclamation that "Nothing seems out of line there."
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42331 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:45 am to
They were schmucks for entering the building
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20997 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:46 am to
It was an effort to pin "insurrection" on Trump and she's just another link in the chain.

Dems are scoundrels but they are not stupid. They don't mind driving on the sidewalk either.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
14464 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:50 am to
It would be like having Schiff or Raskin represent you
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:51 am to
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The guys that went into the chambers and the congress offices. YES, was overboard.
Like, for example, the Viking Hat dude who was escorted to the locked chamber doors by capitol police, and since the doors were locked, they unlocked them to give him access?
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5120 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:51 am to
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You’re here.


OWL is (D)ifferent
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58199 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:56 am to
I suspect some of her clients were not the brightest bulbs in the world. As the lawyer, it is your job to explain the law to your client and determine if he indeed violated it.

It says they pleaded guilty but to what charges? If to simple trespass or destruction of public property, that's one thing. More serious charges, different story.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11063 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:56 am to
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Like, for example, the Viking Hat dude who was escorted to the locked chamber doors by capitol police, and since the doors were locked, they unlocked them to give him access?

Cannot be emphasized enough.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19804 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:57 am to
Wearing an Army jacket. Stolen valor?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:58 am to
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They were schmucks for entering the building
Not all of them did. Being on the lawn was enough to garner a trespassing charge.

Further, a number of folks arrested for J6 thought it was okay to enter the Capitol because law enforcement authorities actually ushered them in.

quote:

"He was not at the front of the lines, he didn't see barricades being knocked down, he didn't see officers getting assaulted, he didn't see anything other than large crowds at the Capitol," Thomas Mayr, the lawyer for Christopher Grider, one of the people accused of participating in the riot, told ABC News. "He went through an open door."

Grider, of Texas, is one of dozens of suspected rioters who claimed to be unaware they were not allowed inside -- some of whom argued that they were actually ushered in by officers. He now faces multiple charges including violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.
LINK
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9785 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:03 am to
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They were schmucks for entering the building


I was there.

I stayed far away from the buildings because it felt like a trap.

The entire day went nothing like the media portrayed though and Cap Police 100% sent people into buildings.

I watched with my own eyeballs.
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3176 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:03 am to
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That’s a condition of their plea, retard.
Correct. Which they entered into voluntarily.

What’s your point?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55540 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:19 am to
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You’re here.

A salient point!
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71104 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:22 am to
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I thought conservative groups offered legal representation to those accused


I'm sure they did. I doubt it was done for 100% of the hundreds or thousands of those that required it.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35926 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:37 am to
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Summary: if your dumb enough to come on here and confess that your a Soy Boy thag “talked his Mom out of going to HER CAPITAL” and exorcizing her Free Speech & YOU ARE HERE BRAGGING ABOUT IT, WOW, your a sorry sack of shite! But your Mom, she sounds like good people!!!!


Lighten up Francis.

Yes, I’m happy my mom and I are not sitting in jail for the next 20 years over a set up since I knew what was about to go down. Not exactly a provocative statement.

Maybe only two Monsters for breakfast tomorrow.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42331 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:43 am to
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was there.

I stayed far away from the buildings because it felt like a trap.

The entire day went nothing like the media portrayed though and Cap Police 100% sent people into buildings.

I watched with my own eyeballs.


Ugh yeah 100% a trap

Have you ever been interviewed just for being in vicinity
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 9:46 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 9:51 am to
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Which they entered into voluntarily.


If they didn’t stipulate to those, they didn’t get a deal. You’re doubling down on stupid.
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