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re: Medicine Isn't A Science. Practice of the diagnosis, treatment, and prevention of disease

Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:55 pm to
In which thread is this back and forth?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:00 pm to
Will post the threads as soon as I get to a comp. My phone isn't letting me post the links.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:23 pm to
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I want people to just look at the way this doctor is acting. Just ignoring the simple question. Stalking me. Look at his post history and me going for pages ignoring him. Look at how I clearly explain to him ...




Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:26 pm to
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You are such a dishonest hack.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:27 pm to
Chrome is giving me a little trouble posting links for some reason.

Gags references the 2 studies he posted as proof that germ theory did not exist here. LINK

After making fun of him for a bit, further down the page I post the links to the studies again and elucidate further as to how they are in fact the same study. I also post the source from which the second link gets its anecdote. Further down that page, I post five screenshots from a book about the influenza pandemic of 1918, including this last screenshot, which provides the exact type of evidence that gags is after.



Not surprisingly, he doesn't address it directly, and tries to slyly change the subject with the last post on page 8, and then does it directly with later posts. On page 10 he does more hamstering, while also ignoring the entirety of what he said before. There are other links I can provide upon request, as long as Chrome allows me.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:27 pm to
I'm gonna use that meme!
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:32 pm to
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Post the Rosenau links you little bitch. Do it again, for old times sake.
Is this it?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:33 pm to
On page 8 of that thread I break it down more clearly. For some reason Chrome won't let me post links.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:52 pm to
It's like all the worst things I say keep getting confirmed by you, as I say them to you and you respond. It's a really terrible display by whatever supposed medical experts. In case we needed more confirmation
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:56 pm to
What did you do in the medical field?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:00 pm to


You cannot prove human to human contagion. He is completely lying about how I responded to that old study he finally finally produced, which again would seem to confirm ideas of tissue disease OVER bacterial infection, yes. He and the study frame it as proving viral theory, but there is no proof of viral theory. What it did was disprove bacterial theory and then brought up a new explanation which itself can't be proved. He understands this but is more interested in trying to make me look ridiculous
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:04 pm to
Are you saying microbes do not cause disease?

Or, are you saying disease producing microbes are not spread through the air?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:05 pm to
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You cannot prove human to human contagion.
Did you look up sepsis?
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:06 pm to
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Are you saying microbes do not cause disease?
I'm saying there is no scientific reason whatsoever to believe microbe causing diseases are spread through air and saliva by humans. All common sense says this would be a very simple experiment done thousands of times and it does not exist. I keep repeating this over and over and over and it hasn't changed. I've looked for them. I've demanded them. But they are interested in other things.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:06 pm to
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What did you do in the medical field?
He cleaned windows ...



... with his tongue



Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:07 pm to
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What it did was disprove bacterial theory and then brought up a new explanation which itself can't be proved.


Well you seem to be operating on the assumption that science can 'prove or disprove' ideas, which isn't the exact way things work. You build arguments based on both supporting evidence and refuting evidence to make larger claims about the mechanisms by which natural phenomena occur. You seem to struggle with the 'building arguments' portion of science, as you can't maintain a consistent context at all.

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is more interested in trying to make me look ridiculous


You do a wonderful job of that without my help.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:08 pm to
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I've looked for them.
Well Ray Charles, welcome to the board.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:08 pm to
Tldr no proof. I'm talking to someone else now who perhaps has a shred of decency
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:09 pm to
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I'm talking to someone else now who perhaps has a shred of decency


Maybe you should find some yourself first.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:11 pm to
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no the reason you have to believe it is because it's taught from childhood,

No, idiot. I’m an engineer. I have to believe physics in order to make things that work.
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