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re: Massie the only republican to vote against the SAVE Act
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yep. Decades of opposing the VRA, suddenly, federal authoritarianism is awesome.
How does this not apply to the 215 who just voted against Republican principles (states rights)?
The real sad part is… Scott Pressler showed everyone how it’s done correctly. But few learned a damn thing.
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How does this not apply to the 215 who just voted against Republican principles (states rights)?
We have a whole entire voting rights act thanks in part to states hiding behind states rights to promote policies and practices that prevented certain people from legally voting. Please spare us this trite argument that voter ID should be left completely up to the states because it is a state right. When states fail to act in a manner that protects the rights of the citizens of this country (turning a blind eye to non citizen voting) the federal government has an obligation and a right to step in and secure those rights. You trample on my rights when you allow a state like California to issue ID’s to illegals and automatically register them to vote and take zero measures to ensure illegals in your state aren’t casting votes in federal elections. STFU with states rights. It’s our right to vote, not Miguel’s and his 3 dozen other illegal family members from Guatemala
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:56 pm to Jake88
quote:If there’s one thing the republican party needs it’s more unprincipled congress members.
Sometimes those principles screw us.
John McCain would be so proud!
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:56 pm to hawgfaninc
What a complete POS . fricking fool .
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:57 pm to Jspaspa3303
This thing is DOA in the Senate, right?
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:58 pm to Bandit1980
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How's about 470,672 posts on here because you have no life?
it will be 471,000 before sundown
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:58 pm to BugAC
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Are federal taxes an erosion of states rights?
No. Taxation has never been seen as a governmetn power exclusive to states or the feds. It's always been an example of our duel sovereign federal system with concurrent/overlapping powers, like the police power.
Completely different history and Constitutional basis than domain over elections.
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do you personally believe a state should allow illegals to vote in federal elections? A
I already told you it's illegal. There is not a system that can prevent fraud, of any sort, at 100%. Fraudsters always have the advantage b/c they're willing to be dishonest.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:58 pm to TDTOM
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This thing is DOA in the Senate, right?
Correct. There aren’t 60 votes for cloture.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:00 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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We have a whole entire voting rights act thanks in part to states hiding behind states rights to promote policies and practices that prevented certain people from legally voting.
1. There is a specific set of Constitutional Amendments modifying our Constitution to get that power that doesn't exist here
2. The GOP has opposed those policies for decades, proving my point.
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When states fail to act in a manner that protects the rights of the citizens of this country (turning a blind eye to non citizen voting) the federal government has an obligation and a right to step in and secure those rights.
All you're doing is giving a justification for being a RINO/hypocrite
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:On this issue, kinda. But many who voted for it are looking at the larger picture.
Doesn't that make those "fighting fire with fire" the RINOs?
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:01 pm to hawgfaninc
What an absolute piece of shite. frick that guy.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So youre ok with states breaking federal election laws despite their own laws because of states' rights, these are rogue actors, and secondly, people are sick of the election fraud and states, blue states, will not prosecute.
All you're doing is giving a justification for being a RINO/hypocrite
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:03 pm to Jake88
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But many who voted for it are looking at the larger picture.
Literally the reasoning of RINOs who abandon principle for convenience or popularity.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:04 pm to ninthward
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So youre ok with stated breaking federal election laws despite their own laws because if states right, these are rogue actors and secondly people are sick of the election fraud and states, blue states, will not prosecute.
Nowhere did I say or imply any of that. Stay on topic.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
Just because you don't say it doesn't mean you don't imply it.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:06 pm to LSU Patrick
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This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:The amount of people that the GOPE has managed to co-opt without them even knowing it is kinda frightening, tbh.
All you're doing is giving a justification for being a RINO/hypocrite
Again, we know how to fix this. (and it needs to be fixed!) But no one wants to go out and do it in their local districts, and get it done. They want to sit on the couch and hope someone in Washington DC does it for them.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:07 pm to ninthward
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Just because you don't say it doesn't mean you don't imply it.
Cool, but I haven't implied it.
I'm focused on the "RINO" label being potentially misused, exclusively.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:07 pm to ninthward
Exactly. He is all about muh principles. The criminals have rights too!
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:08 pm to djsdawg
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The criminals have rights too!
Criminals do have rights. Some of our amendments in the BOR specifically address those rights
Why do you hate American values and the principles of our founders?
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