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re: Marvel goes all in on racism with captain america
Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:59 pm to bogeypro
Posted on 4/17/21 at 4:59 pm to bogeypro
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In Captain America: The First Avenger, the United States government responds to the threat of a world power genocidally pursuing the genetic ideal of a white, blond, blue-eyed superman by genetically manufacturing their very own white, blond, blue-eyed superman
Are you finally realizing that these people hate you and want to destroy everything you've ever loved yet?
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Posted on 4/17/21 at 6:49 pm to bogeypro
The show fricking sucked anyway.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:06 pm to bogeypro
Wonder what they will do when they run out of things to scrutinize, cancel, and apologize for?
Will racism finally be eradicated?
Will racism finally be eradicated?
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:31 pm to Korkstand
quote:After Captain America played out the Hitler / Nazi angles, the comics shifted to Hydra, the very depiction of a "Deep State". Probably responsible for a lot of the Deep State fever dreams you see today.
Uh, the character is literally named Captain America, and the current story is about how much it means to be that symbol. Should be clear that they do not hate America. The stories speak out against the people in charge, the ones profiting from war, conducting secret unethical programs, the "deep state", etc. Seems like the kind of thing that would appeal to this board, but you're too busy looking for shite to get offended over.
But Marvel has heroes fighting racial injustice and stereotypes dating back the the 60's and 70's. So yeah, I don't see the huge issue with the series that are largely following cannon that was introduced decades ago.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:32 pm to The Levee
quote:It was going to be difficult to follow WandaVision in any multiverse.
The show fricking sucked anyway.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:39 pm to mmcgrath
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I don't see the huge issue with the series that are largely following cannon that was introduced decades ago.
Isaiah Bradley's story, which is the most "woke" part of this show imo, was introduced in the 2000s, so while technically still "decades ago," that's really not a long time ago for comic books.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:44 pm to bogeypro
Bruh...if you actually watch the show you’ll see Sam Wilson actually shuttering the racist vibes.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:45 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:I stopped collecting comics well before that, so I just knew it was old. Unfortunately for old comic book lovers we just had to wait through the dozens of reboots of Spider-Man and Batman in the 90's through 2000's until movies with consistent story lines came out.
Isaiah Bradley's story, which is the most "woke" part of this show imo, was introduced in the 2000s, so while technically still "decades ago," that's really not a long time ago for comic books.
This post was edited on 4/17/21 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:48 pm to mmcgrath
Wandavision is WAY better than this show, but what are people expecting from Marvel? Marvel has been openly WOKE before being WOKE was even a thing. People like the fantasy, science fiction, the hero's, the villain's, the shadow governments, fighting the man, etc. etc. Nobody who cares is getting hung up on the wokeness, and 90% of the wokeness was in alternate timelines and smaller books, not in the main stories anyway. The Xmen team change was intentionally WOKE and became the most popular storyline for them EVER.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:53 pm to Jyrdis
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Bruh...if you actually watch the show you’ll see Sam Wilson actually shuttering the racist vibes
Sam did acknowledge that the old guy was done wrong but ultimately decided that times are different now and that being captain America was important to him.
Also in the episode you have a black family telling their sons white best friend how much of an honor it was to have served with him.
Yes they discussed race but I didn’t feel the white guilt shite.
Posted on 4/17/21 at 8:12 pm to Purple Spoon
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Yes they discussed race but I didn’t feel the white guilt shite.
That's because you're not looking for it in every instance.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:33 pm to Northshore Saint
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This is 100% false. The term was used way before Trotsky and before communist philosophy was even a thing.
Fake News.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:42 pm to bogeypro
frick marvel these days
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:45 pm to Korkstand
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Korkstand
Stfu you soy boy
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:51 pm to Korkstand
quote:Correct as a general statement, not specific.
The comics have addressed sociopolitical issues since the beginning.
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"Woke" is just the newest term some folks like to use to express their disdain for discussing such things.
I mean. . .
Posted on 4/18/21 at 1:53 pm to armsdealer
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Wandavision is WAY better than this show, but what are people expecting from Marvel? Marvel has been openly WOKE before being WOKE was even a thing.
I was hoping they would just go on and on about captain America really didn't go back to Peggy, he ran off with the boy from his gay dating group from end game. It seemed the appropriate end arc for woke cap.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:02 pm to bogeypro
quote:I have watched every episode so far.
Marvel goes all in on racism with captain america
I don't get why people are so upset. They address racism in America, a little.
*****SPOILERS BELOW********
I mean, they have to if we are talking about the potential for a Black Cap. Not really woke, as much as inevitable. Especially with addressing a black Super Soldier that lived through the 40's, 50's, and 60's.
At the end of the last episode you see Sam taking the shield, anyway. It shows he may have issues with his identity, but his love for America is bigger than that. It was truly moving, in my opinion.
That is a message I wish the "woke mobs" could get behind.
This post was edited on 4/18/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:16 pm to bogeypro
If you watched the episode, it actually made a ton of sense in context. The black super soldier who was railing against the U.S. was then countered by Falcon who refused to be embittered like the other guy. It was a very good nuanced take on our police state vs NOT lumping people together based on skin color. Falcon told him “the white man who wore that shield wasn’t the one who put you behind bars”.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:20 pm to kingbob
When he starts practicing with the shield. . .I got goosebumps
Sam is the only person introduced in the MCU with a moral compass and temperament akin to Steve. He should be Captain America.
Sam is the only person introduced in the MCU with a moral compass and temperament akin to Steve. He should be Captain America.
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:29 pm to Roaad
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I don't get why people are so upset.
You don't get why one of the most highly sensitive group of pussies gets upset over something?
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