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re: Mark of the beast in our lifetime?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:02 am to dr
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:02 am to dr
quote:I would suggest you read through his post history regarding his views of the Bible and Christian doctrine. He takes every theological conspiracy theory or anti-Christian, critical view and uses those as the basis for his interpretation of the Bible. There is nothing “orthodox” about what he says, and to the contrary, enters every theological discussion on this site with the intention to dispel the historic Christian notion of reality by attempting to prove that the Bible and the Christian God are nothing like what Christian’s by and large believe they are.
I would argue "heretic" is a judgement based upon a specific dogma.
Christian religions call each other that, because one group does not accept the views, or literature of the other.
book of Enoch is a good example
judge not ....., pull the log...etc...teaches us to be accepting and not judgemental
Jesus is the answer, but it is amazing how if we agree on that, it goes south real quick when dogma gets involved
dogma is strictly humans interpretation of their accepted scriptures
anything outside of your specific dogma makes you uncomfortable,
I am confident in saying that his teachings on the Christian religion are heretical.
And BTW, Jesus and the Apostles condemned false teaching, too.
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:15 am to TigerAxeOK
Also, when thinking about the Mark of the Beast you have to take the timeline into account.
If your a pretrib or mid trib you won't even be here for the Mark of the Beast.
The Mark of the Beast doesn't even show up until Revelation 13.
Things that would happen before then if you were on earth still.
1. The Rapture - Up to 1 Billion People gone from earth
2. Antichrist hits the scene and 7 Yr Peace covenant with Israel
3. Great World War
4. Famine and Suffering
5. Due to the previous to 1/4th of those remaining after rapture die. Another billion people gone.
6. Killing of tribulation believers
7. Great Earthquake where people wish the rocks would kill them.
8. 1/3 of all tree's and grass gone. Destroyed by hail and fire.
9. Sulfur invades the oceans. All ocean creatures die, 1/3 of worlds ships destroyed.
10.Wormwood in the water, millions die.
11. Extended darkness
12. Locust and Scorpion plague worldwide
13. Death Angel 1/3 of remaining population dies
14. Half the worlds population gone in 4 years.
15. New religious system fail, Antichrist dies but comes back to life and becomes more vengeful. The Mark of the Beast is introduced, and all remaining believers are killed.
After that God pours out the worst of his judgements on the world.
16. Sores on all those who accepted the mark of the beast
17. All Water turns blood red
18. Heat from sun becomes unbearable.
19. Pain from sores becomes so bad people gnaw on their tongue and blaspheme God.
20.Battle of Armageddon
21.Judgement and destruction of the One World Government. Those who remain curse God rather than repent.
If your a pretrib or mid trib you won't even be here for the Mark of the Beast.
The Mark of the Beast doesn't even show up until Revelation 13.
Things that would happen before then if you were on earth still.
1. The Rapture - Up to 1 Billion People gone from earth
2. Antichrist hits the scene and 7 Yr Peace covenant with Israel
3. Great World War
4. Famine and Suffering
5. Due to the previous to 1/4th of those remaining after rapture die. Another billion people gone.
6. Killing of tribulation believers
7. Great Earthquake where people wish the rocks would kill them.
8. 1/3 of all tree's and grass gone. Destroyed by hail and fire.
9. Sulfur invades the oceans. All ocean creatures die, 1/3 of worlds ships destroyed.
10.Wormwood in the water, millions die.
11. Extended darkness
12. Locust and Scorpion plague worldwide
13. Death Angel 1/3 of remaining population dies
14. Half the worlds population gone in 4 years.
15. New religious system fail, Antichrist dies but comes back to life and becomes more vengeful. The Mark of the Beast is introduced, and all remaining believers are killed.
After that God pours out the worst of his judgements on the world.
16. Sores on all those who accepted the mark of the beast
17. All Water turns blood red
18. Heat from sun becomes unbearable.
19. Pain from sores becomes so bad people gnaw on their tongue and blaspheme God.
20.Battle of Armageddon
21.Judgement and destruction of the One World Government. Those who remain curse God rather than repent.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:36 am to boosiebadazz
quote:
I’m agnostic, but the Rapture would freak me the frick out.
What if that story was put there by our alien overlords to make harvest day easier?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:39 am to Squirrelmeister
I read the Bible every day and hide God's word in my heart.
You are spewing false doctrine and you will be judged for it.
If anyone adds or takes away from the word, even if it be an angel, he will be cut off and cursed.
Repent and hold every thought subject to Christ.
You have mischaracterized the character of God by believing and applying an old false doctrine that is straight from hell and is addressed by Paul throughout the New Testament.
You are spewing false doctrine and you will be judged for it.
If anyone adds or takes away from the word, even if it be an angel, he will be cut off and cursed.
Repent and hold every thought subject to Christ.
You have mischaracterized the character of God by believing and applying an old false doctrine that is straight from hell and is addressed by Paul throughout the New Testament.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:56 am to beebefootballfan
quote:
The Mark of the Beast doesn't even show up until Revelation 13.
Things that would happen before then if you were on earth still.
1. The Rapture - Up to 1 Billion People gone from earth
2. Antichrist hits the scene and 7 Yr Peace covenant with Israel
3. Great World War
4. Famine and Suffering
5. Due to the previous to 1/4th of those remaining after rapture die. Another billion people gone.
6. Killing of tribulation believers
7. Great Earthquake where people wish the rocks would kill them.
8. 1/3 of all tree's and grass gone. Destroyed by hail and fire.
9. Sulfur invades the oceans. All ocean creatures die, 1/3 of worlds ships destroyed.
10.Wormwood in the water, millions die.
11. Extended darkness
12. Locust and Scorpion plague worldwide
13. Death Angel 1/3 of remaining population dies
14. Half the worlds population gone in 4 years.
15. New religious system fail, Antichrist dies but comes back to life and becomes more vengeful. The Mark of the Beast is introduced, and all remaining believers are killed.
After that God pours out the worst of his judgements on the world.
16. Sores on all those who accepted the mark of the beast
17. All Water turns blood red
18. Heat from sun becomes unbearable.
19. Pain from sores becomes so bad people gnaw on their tongue and blaspheme God.
20.Battle of Armageddon
21.Judgement and destruction of the One World Government. Those who remain curse God rather than repent.
A lot of revelation is symbolism. Ive listened to some very interpreted podcasts on the subject and it can be interpreted so many different ways. Its always an interesting subject for sure.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:18 am to Smeg
quote:
Do you think we'll see a "one world digital currency" that will be based off a "social credit score"
IDK about currency but a social credit score is headed our way.
Hell, the Dept of Human Rights in Minnesota is considering a hate incident (not crime related) data base. IE, people can phone the dept and report hate speech that did not involve an actual crime. It will be compiled in that person's file for further reference.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 12:10 pm to Leotiger725
Maybe it is you who will be judged for worshiping the evil god of the Jews.
My opinion might differ from yours. I think that’s ok. It looks like you have a problem with differing opinions (heresy, from your point of view).
Can we at least agree that “God” lied to Adam is telling him the fruit of the tree of knowledge would kill him that very day? That the serpent told Adam the truth that he would not die if he ate it? And that Adam lived 900+ years after eating the fruit that YHWH said would kill him?
quote:
You are spewing false doctrine
My opinion might differ from yours. I think that’s ok. It looks like you have a problem with differing opinions (heresy, from your point of view).
Can we at least agree that “God” lied to Adam is telling him the fruit of the tree of knowledge would kill him that very day? That the serpent told Adam the truth that he would not die if he ate it? And that Adam lived 900+ years after eating the fruit that YHWH said would kill him?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 12:27 pm to Lg
quote:
There's a difference is Spirit and man.
1 John 2:18-19
quote:
Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
2 John 1:7
quote:
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
I guess you can read that right there and tell me that those people that were a part of their Christian group that left their group to spread a (perhaps slightly) different gospel message to “deceive” other people were not really people. They were just spirits?
Next, are you going to read all that “last hour” talk and deny that they believed the world was about to end?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:21 pm to Squirrelmeister
Do you believe in Sophia?
What was Christ's role in your perspective. Why did he come to make war on the enemy? Did Christ come to war with himself?
Are you a freemason by chance?
What was Christ's role in your perspective. Why did he come to make war on the enemy? Did Christ come to war with himself?
Are you a freemason by chance?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:35 pm to Zach
quote:
Dept of Human Rights in Minnesota
F-ck Minnesota... The biggest bunch of white-guilt, Northern-euro trash you'll ever find.
They'll talk to you about diversity until blue in the face, but none of them get within 2 miles of Little Somalia
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:50 pm to SOSFAN
quote:Tech is already here (YOUTUBE)
I thought the mark was going to be on either on your hand or forehead and without you can't do or buy anything.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:02 pm to Smeg
quote:
Curious about two things:
1.) Do you think we'll see a "one world digital currency" that will be based off a "social credit score" within, say the next 30 years? If you're anti-trans, you are banned and not allowed to purchase anything.
2.) If you've never believed in the bible: would something like this change your mind or would you just chalk it up to a coincidence?
There are billions of people who are of other mass religions who are not Christians and do not believe in or know nothing of the teachings of Revelations.
Would digital currency be a "mark of the beast" for the billions of people who know nothing of such things? Or would it be a mark only for Christians?
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:05 pm to The Eric
quote:
Don’t be a moron
But what if he is Kirby Smart's dentist?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 3:09 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:
There are billions of people who are of other mass religions who are not Christians and do not believe in or know nothing of the teachings of Revelations.
There's a difference between "do not believe" and "know nothing of".
Who, in the society that will use digital currency, has not heard of Christ? You think some remote cannibal tribe, lost on some island, without contact to the outside world for 200 years, are going to be forced to use digital GovCoinPay?
Edit: do you think only the "Christians" in Sodom were wiped out, or everyone who rejected Christ?
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 5/4/23 at 3:40 pm to Smeg
quote:
There's a difference between "do not believe" and "know nothing of".
Who, in the society that will use digital currency, has not heard of Christ? You think some remote cannibal tribe, lost on some island, without contact to the outside world for 200 years, are going to be forced to use digital GovCoinPay?
Edit: do you think only the "Christians" in Sodom were wiped out, or everyone who rejected Christ?
Yes I know there's a difference bewteen those things and what does it matter if they've "heard of Christ" or not?
I know little of Hindi, Buddhism and Islam but I have "heard" of Vishnu, Buddha and Muhammad. Having knowledge of their Dieties does not equal knowledge of their faiths. Knowing the name of Christ does not equal a knowledge of Christianity anymore than knowing the name of Buddha equals knowledge of Buddhism.
If I know nothing of the above faiths, am I still subject to their teachings and prophecies? Are the billions of people who practice the above faiths subject to the teachings and prophecies of Christianity or just their own faith? Are they subject to the Book of Revelations, a Christian prophecy? Or are they subject to the pinnings of the religion they practice?
Sure, the Hindus', Buddhists' and Muslims have "heard of" Christ but that doesn't mean they know anything meaningful about the Christian faith or it's teachings, punishments and prophecies. So are they subject to the Christian faith and it's prophecies or are they subject to their own?
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 5/4/23 at 3:47 pm to beebefootballfan
quote:
21.Judgement and destruction of the One World Government. Those who remain curse God rather than repent.
I’ll have to start drinking again if I make it that far.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 3:50 pm to KirbySmartsDentist
quote:
I believe that the Antichrist is alive now and that he is the Roman descendent named DeSantis.
I haven't looked them up.
Are your first 36 posts better than this?
Don't worry, though. AI takes a bit to calibrate.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 5/4/23 at 4:11 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:God is entitled to show mercy as He sees fit, but even so, Adam died spiritually that day, and he began to die physically. There was no lie.
Can we at least agree that “God” lied to Adam is telling him the fruit of the tree of knowledge would kill him that very day? That the serpent told Adam the truth that he would not die if he ate it? And that Adam lived 900+ years after eating the fruit that YHWH said would kill him?
Repent.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:32 pm to Squirrelmeister
quote:
Squirrelmeister
When Hell central casting calls your name, you will be perfectly cast as legion. My guess is pork is your favorite food.
Luke 8:26-39
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:07 pm to Squirrelmeister
There are few people I would consider 'evil' in the spiritual sense. Most criminals and law breakers being simply selfish or lacking impulse control. But I think you might qualify for truly Biblically evil.
Edit: If I were you, I'd seriously reconsider being an edgy contrarian. You're treading on dangerous ground.
Edit: If I were you, I'd seriously reconsider being an edgy contrarian. You're treading on dangerous ground.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 6:11 pm
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